The gears and gasoline killed it with this one. Easily one of my favorite YouTube videos....
I didn't see this posted up yet, too fun to miss.
The gears and gasoline killed it with this one. Easily one of my favorite YouTube videos....
I didn't see this posted up yet, too fun to miss.
Love the idea, tried it myself and it didn't work out. The biggest caveat they have is you need a second set of wheels & tires. That's what stopped me, as my E36 wheels don't fit my E82 well at all.
Track a beater...........by my standards that's a really nice car. I once raced a nearly bone stock 78 Corolla as well as its sister beater ITC car at one of our local SCCA club races.
The concept is solid though; so many people get hung up on needing a higher end car when you could simply add some decent tires, dampers sway bars and brake pads and have a boatload to fun.
I’m as afraid to do something like this as I would be to try opioid meds. I’m afraid I wouldn’t be able to stop doing it!
I'd hate to be the guy whose coolant sent some vette into the tires. Might need to go a little further on his prep.
In reply to NermalSnert :
In my fairly extensive on track experience, it's rarely the stock or near stock/old cars blowing radiator hoses or giving up on track. It's the "prepped" track/race cars.
Inspiring. One day!
I often think of doing this with my $1200 ZX2...
its so slow and fun I drive it full throttle all the time, and it’s so cheap I don’t care if it breaks.. bad thoughts
"This thing is probably crappier than anything you have"
This fool don't know me very well does he?
Having completed OneLap 3 times in cars with over 150k miles... I'm all for this sentiment. Similarly, I think they should bring that car to OneLap this year.
it's along the lines of, 'the fastest car is the one that doesn't owe you anything'
I'm a little tweaked that it looks like they swapped the tires out without using a jack stand?
In reply to sleepyhead the buffalo :
I was also surprised that they appear to have jacked the front of the car by lifting the radiator? But, that is nit-picky since I could not really tell what the lifting point was.
As the video progressed I could not help but think that on a basic car like this they were less than $100 away from new rotors, pads, fluid (at least for the fronts.) I was later delighted that they at least put fresh pads on the front. I thought similar on tires. My thoughts being that a car like this should be easy to source a JY upgrade wheel and even used "better rubber." Again, they eventually went that same way.
Fun video. A fun premise.
Someone should put together a competition where the ability of people's beaters to perform in motorsports is compared.
And invite these guys to bring their E36 M3box to compete as a baseline and to assist in documenting/promoting/adding views to the shenaningans.
Haven't watched that one yet (saw it this morning but headed to the lake before I could watch it) but I do love their videos
If the answer to this particular question was no, we wouldn't have EVOs, and EVOs are pretty sweet.
Daylan C said:"This thing is probably crappier than anything you have"
Challenge accepted!
On a bass guitar forum, there was a guy looking for a vintage effects pedal from the '70s (a Mu-Tron III for those who care). I made a comment about how an original one would "cost more than my car." A bunch of guys started jumping on me for "not knowing what I'm talking about" because you could find a Mu-Tron III for $600 on ebay. My point exactly LOL
In reply to LanEvo :
"Half price my whip, same price my watch"
And I got some cheap watches.
Watching the video, I kind of felt bad for those guys.
I used to be active with the local Mitsubishi club when I lived in Canada and drove an Evo VIII back in 2003-2005. I did get to drive a few regular (non-Evo) Lancers at some racetracks in eastern Canada, including Cayuga. They do handle pretty well; not that different from a Sentra SE-R or, Mazda 3, or Protege from that era.
But if these guys are hooping and hollering with delight behind the wheel of a 200k mile Lancer on clapped-out stock shocks ... then that says something about their own track car builds!
In reply to LanEvo :
Well, one of those guys (Jackie Ding) has his own YouTube channel and also completes as a time trials driver. I think their enthusiasm stems from focusing on fun, rather than lap times, because of the slower car.
In reply to LanEvo :
Jackie Ding currently drives a 2020 Supra they're in the process of track prepping (he's already silly fast in it), his previous was a super fast - fairly well developed s2k (and that dude is just straight up fast). Alex Li has an M-car I believe. "Fast" Ben (previously short Ben - both of the guys that film for G&G are named Ben) has an amazing ZX2 (lol) and a nice Forester turbo. Tall Ben (slow ben) has a Evo VIII.
I think it's the simplicity/purity of it that inspires those reactions.
*edit - beat me to it.... Updated the car list though.
I want to at least autocross my beater automatic ek civic, mayybe if I fix the headgasket issues I'll give it a shot. As it is, I think the hg issues are causing the low compression (but fine for dd duties) and I worry about the honda automatic lasting. But just to get it to handle reasonably well is easy since I was able to find good condition konis with gc sleeves for 300 bucks and I threw on my ITR rear sway bar that I wasn't using. Add my 15x7 200tw tires and its all set.
That right there is a basic honda handling build lol.
I don’t know those guys and I guess I took it at face value.
One of the guys said something like “this is more fun than my Subaru” (which I took literally). That comment is what really threw me: if your Subaru track car build is less fun than a stock Lancer with open diff, then you’ve done something wrong!
The Lancer is a nicely balanced car with good ergonomics and steering feel. Very similar to a Mazda 3 overall. You can slide it around quite a bit, but there is a limit to how hard you can hoon before you’re just smoking the front tires.
Having said that, I do have fond memories of flinging my girlfriend’s Mazda 3 winter beater around Tremblant when my E30 threw a rod. Ditto for a rented Mustang V6 at Sebring.
My wife had a Geo Prizim equipped with the worlds hardest tires I'd ever encountered, it actually oversteer and you could drift the thing through 60 mph sweepers............glorious fun.
I totally get the in car giggling.
This is why Lemons racing my 110 hp Fox chassis Mustang is so fun.
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