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hrdlydangerous
hrdlydangerous Reader
7/29/10 1:40 p.m.

So here's my dilemma. I have a 2004 Mazdaspeed Miata with 71,000 miles in very nice condition. My dealership just traded a 2005 Rx8 with 30,000 miles and the Grand touring package (leather, heated seats, nav, moonroof, limited slip, six speed). The Rx8 is also in very nice condition. I can trade straight up for these cars. According to the books the rex has more value. It's a year newer with 40,000 less miles with more features and a back seat but it's not a Miata. What does the panel think? Deal or no deal?

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
7/29/10 1:41 p.m.

I would say no deal. The MSM seems to hold it's value better than the RX8s.

Plus, i'd rather have an MSM than an RX8.

Or... at least i think. Now i'm flip-flopping.

triumph5
triumph5 Reader
7/29/10 1:44 p.m.

Deal breaker: do you want or need the room of a back seat?

hrdlydangerous
hrdlydangerous Reader
7/29/10 1:52 p.m.

The back seat would come in handy since #2 is just around the corner. Not a family hauler by any means but more room than I have right now.

triumph5
triumph5 Reader
7/29/10 1:54 p.m.
hrdlydangerous wrote: The back seat would come in handy since #2 is just around the corner. Not a family hauler by any means but more room than I have right now.

I think there's your answer.

kurtz
kurtz New Reader
7/29/10 1:57 p.m.

I would keep the Miata, since my friend recently sold his '04 RX8 with a dead motor for $850 my opinion of them has decreased.

John Brown
John Brown SuperDork
7/29/10 1:57 p.m.

I would.

I am also the class idiot.

njansenv
njansenv HalfDork
7/29/10 2:05 p.m.
kurtz wrote: I would keep the Miata, since my friend recently sold his '04 RX8 with a dead motor for $850 my opinion of them has decreased.

$850 with a dead motor? I NEED to find something like that.....

Otto_Maddox
Otto_Maddox Reader
7/29/10 2:13 p.m.

In reply to njansenv:

Yeah, you can get a good low mileage engine for less than $2K. Or better yet, pop in a V8.

njansenv
njansenv HalfDork
7/29/10 2:25 p.m.

I was thinking Ellis Juan. It would fix the only thing wrong with the RX8.

I kid. Kinda.

Otto_Maddox
Otto_Maddox Reader
7/29/10 2:36 p.m.

Yeah, the rotary is the best part of an RX8. The worst part too.

TJ
TJ SuperDork
7/29/10 2:41 p.m.

I would stick with the MSM......of course I'm biased since I have one and don't have an RX8.

amg_rx7
amg_rx7 HalfDork
7/29/10 3:12 p.m.
hrdlydangerous wrote: The back seat would come in handy since #2 is just around the corner. Not a family hauler by any means but more room than I have right now.

+2

Jeff
Jeff Dork
7/29/10 3:35 p.m.
triumph5 wrote:
hrdlydangerous wrote: The back seat would come in handy since #2 is just around the corner. Not a family hauler by any means but more room than I have right now.
I think there's your answer.

You will kick yourself when you want to take the kids for a drive and can't. It would be a no brainer for me.

TJ
TJ SuperDork
7/29/10 3:58 p.m.

In reply to Jeff:

Just make two trips.

(I saw it on a video of two Stephen Hawking sounding guys talking so it must be good advice.)

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
7/29/10 4:05 p.m.

Economically, very likely a bad move. Practically, probably a good move.

You will be down on power and mileage, but handling will be similar (or at least reminiscent).

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy New Reader
7/29/10 4:30 p.m.

In reply to hrdlydangerous:

Car seats do fit in an RX-8. They are fun to drive, too, but as we all know, the '8 is not a Miata. Take the '8 for a drive without a salesperson, then decide.

bluesideup
bluesideup New Reader
7/29/10 5:13 p.m.

Some of those new kid seats are ginormous! We have one little guy and will have another soon enough. Ideally I'd like to get something like a CTS-V but it'll be a bit before those are in my price range.

Considering how cheap the RX-8s are I would look at one. I can only fit in the base model without a sunroof but I really liked the car when I drove it a few years ago.

As long as I regularly run it up over 8000rpm I could semi-forget about the gas mileage.

MCarp22
MCarp22 Reader
7/29/10 6:01 p.m.
Brett_Murphy wrote: as we all know, the '8 is not a Miata.

Plenty of miata to be had there! The NC Miata is basically a short wheelbase RX8.

hrdlydangerous
hrdlydangerous Reader
7/29/10 6:04 p.m.
Brett_Murphy wrote: In reply to hrdlydangerous: Car seats do fit in an RX-8. They are fun to drive, too, but as we all know, the '8 is not a Miata. Take the '8 for a drive without a salesperson, then decide.

I'm the finance manager at the dealership so no worry of a salesperson keeping me from fully testing the vehicle's capabilities.

mndsm
mndsm Dork
7/29/10 6:06 p.m.

The lack of power in the RX8 made me cry. Stick with the MSM. Boosties are fun.

JFX001
JFX001 SuperDork
7/29/10 6:13 p.m.

I would say no deal.

I would also like to welcome you to the mini-van darkside.

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
7/29/10 8:10 p.m.

why not both?

hrdlydangerous
hrdlydangerous Reader
7/29/10 8:13 p.m.
mad_machine wrote: why not both?

There's a payoff on the MSM. Don't want two payments.

JFX001, Thanks for the invite to the dark side but I'm already killing the earth with my other car, an SUV.

jstein77
jstein77 Dork
7/29/10 8:27 p.m.

If you can live with the gas mileage (or lack thereof), my vote would be for the RX-8. I'm a rotary fan from way back. I mean way back - like 1973.

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