V-8 911

Anyone every driven a 911 with a V-8 conversion? I'm talking about an iron block V-8. I happened across the car below, and while I myself have done a lot of V-8 conversions, I've never driven a V-8 911. But this swap makes little sense to me. Doesn't adding all that mass behind the rear wheel centerline just make everything that is bad about a rear engined car (notice I'm not saying rear engine cars are bad) worse?

http://classiccarliquidators.com/classic-cars/1967/porsche/911-with-v8-conversion/306802

bravenrace wrote: Anyone every driven a 911 with a V-8 conversion?

No, but the thought made my butt pucker hard enough to form a diamond. They're scary enough with a flat-6 TYVM.

Nope. They've never made sense to me either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJqNh-lmtR8

Yuck. So it's a 67 (if it is one) converted to the later impact bumper body with some turbo stuff throw in, the tank sawed in half and a Chevy in the back. I think the word "abomination" is what I'm currently looking for.

The reason they made sense to someone apparently is that the flat six costs money to rebuild, plus they can't quite be thrown together in a way that would at least make the V8 run badly. And of course you can make more power from the V8, but a 911 isn't all about outright power unless you want to prove that that's a way to kill yourself faster.

These days it definitely doesn't make any sense at all on a pre-1974 car. This abomination would be worth probably about 40k without the crap bolted to it and a Porsche engine. Of course it'll probably cost you that much to revert it to its original shape and condition unless you use all fg parts.

never have, but would. that's pretty. minus the hood pins, they make me sad.

In reply to turboswede:

No footage of him sliding backward off of the road?

Iron block? No thanks. Ls? Could be interesting.

At least interesting enough ringer me killed

At 40K, you're a little low. A 1967 911 in good shape is 60K almost minimum now. The long hood 911s and 912s have been increasing at about 30% a year for the last three years...

I remember reading that the weight gain of a LS in a water cooled 911 is insignificant in terms of weight distribution, like under 100lbs.

Don't forget the no-charge rust weight reduction feature......

Maroon92 wrote: At 40K, you're a little low. A 1967 911 in good shape is 60K almost minimum now. The long hood 911s and 912s have been increasing at about 30% a year for the last three years...

Yeah, if that turns out to be a 67 911S, somebody will buy it and put it back to normal.

Last year, I bought some parts from a guy who put a 350 in a '74 and planned to use it as a track day car. It makes a little more sense with a '74-'77 car. I suspect that the '67 underwent the conversion quite a while ago: Before long hood car values went through the roof and the LSx became the new small block Chevy.

Woody wrote:

Maroon92 wrote: At 40K, you're a little low. A 1967 911 in good shape is 60K almost minimum now. The long hood 911s and 912s have been increasing at about 30% a year for the last three years...

Yeah, if that turns out to be a 67 911S, somebody will buy it and put it back to normal. Last year, I bought some parts from a guy who put a 350 in a '74 and planned to use it as a track day car. It makes a little more sense with a '74-'77 car. I suspect that the '67 underwent the conversion quite a while ago: Before long hood car values went through the roof and the LSx became the new small block Chevy.

I certainly hope so...

A 67S is at least a 150K car now in good condition. (In fact, A 1973 S just sold for 211 in Paris last week.)

67 is also short Wheel base.. if you think an iron Block in a regular 911 is a scary thought...

Christ, when did this place turn into rennlist? I would jump on a 911-8 for 10k! I track a 944-8 and I pass some pretty fast cars for not a lotta cash. I was gonna do a short wheel 911 untill I determined the axles were at too extreme of an angle, prolly why this one is so cheep.

In reply to tooms351:

You haven't got a boat anchor hanging out the back of your car.

If you've driven a regular 911 (not even an SWB one), which I assume you have, you already know about how the weight in the rear becomes very noticable when you push the car hard. I'm pretty sure I personally don't need a bigger lump of cast iron hanging out there.

But then again, I'm also of the opinion that FDs need to have rotaries in them.

Now if that car was turbo Subie powered...

sure you will feel it, youll be a little slower in the turns, youll make up for it in the straights though. adding water weight to the front helps too. Still you can go really fast for not a lot of cash, which is my goal. You know, im sure, just dont lift!

I loved my old 72 911.. never did I ever own a car that I felt was more trying to kill me

I'd say a big block all American V8 911 is certainly much more manly in a redneck sort of way, but its also a dumbass way of depreciating the value of the car.

It's still a bargain at 10 grand.

Redneck? Dosen't that pretty much sum up this website, in the search of speed or ultimate cool?

Okay, I'm still a little intrigued by this car. I wouldn't keep the iron lump in the back. I'd have to do something different, so here's some questions for anyone that may know.
1. How much do you have to cut up a 911 to put that V-8 in it. IOW, how hard would it be to undo?
2. What determines if a 911 is an "S" or not? Did anyone else notice that the seats are CRX-si Recaro's?

The was a thread here years ago with a 911 that had an Olds Toronado engine & trans mounted mid-ship with the back seats removed and a clever cover that looked like a stack of luggage.

In reply to HappyAndy:

I've done two engine swaps utilizing the olds engine and transaxle. One was into the rear of a Model T pickup truck (not good. Turned out to be a real wheelie machine. I had to put a SBC in the front just to keep it on the ground.) and the other was in a VW Bug using a kit by a company I now cannot remember the name of.
Mid-engined makes a lot more sense to me than rear engined, but using an aluminum engine in the rear would be an improvement over this combo, IMO.