Looking for a hot hatch that runs on E–electricity, that is? How about one for less than 25,000 euros (approximately $26,460 USD)? Well, the Volkswagen ID. 2all concept in Europe purports to be just that.
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I feel like there are a lot of people that would see that 99 mph top speed not as a limiting factor, but as a challenge.
After all, how many people can say they've reached their car's top speed?
and it won't be coming to the U.S. because....reasons
calteg said:and it won't be coming to the U.S. because....reasons
*SIGH*
It's almost as good and as affordable as a Bolt, released in 2017.
I don't get it. I like it, but I don't get how it isn't better.
Colin Wood said:After all, how many people can say they've reached their car's top speed?
Price is good, range is fine, and I don't think the 99mph top speed would bother me for a fun daily car. The 99mph wouldn't stop me from having fun at autocross or smaller tracks.
The disappointing thing is that the 0-60 is so much slower than the GTI. I thought acceleration would be the strength of the EV platform. I've been waiting for an affordable "hot hatch" style EV but I don't think this is it unfortunately.
calteg said:and it won't be coming to the U.S. because....reasons
It doesn't meet US emissions laws. 
It isn't coming to the U.S. because it actually has a specially tuned diesel engine in the glove box that literally kills 50 trees and a family of squirrels for each hour it runs.
On a serious note, for a street driven car, I don't know why on earth a 99 mph top speed should be an issue.
I own all manner of cars that can far exceed that, but in my day to day I doubt I exceed 80 let alone 99.
I do agree with the above though about the acceleration. I would expect a car of this ilk to be hitting 60 in 5 seconds or less. That is a letdown.
tuna55 said:It's almost as good and as affordable as a Bolt, released in 2017.
I don't get it. I like it, but I don't get how it isn't better.
If every car had to be distinctly different from every other one, there would be far fewer cars on the market :) Think of all those interchangeable CUVs with 2.0 turbo four cylinders! That range number puts it closer to a 2020 Bolt (which started shipping around 2022 thanks to the little battery problem) than a 2017.
It may have faster charging capability, that would be a value add over a Bolt for some use cases.
I can understand why VW wouldn't be bringing it to The Land That Ignores Small Hatchbacks, but I'd love to see these on the road. That "less than 7 seconds" 0-60 time is on par with a Bolt and faster than a RWD Ioniq 5.
Realistically, how often do you 'need' a car to accelerate quicker 7 seconds to 60? It hasnt been too many years ago that was considered to be a pretty quick car. 99 mph top speed just means the cops wont have to chase you as far to give you a ticket. :)
Well, it could be imported into the US in 2050...
Technically, a 5.9s time for 0-60 is also "less than 7s", right? 
I have always been a fan of small cars, esp small hatchbacks, so naturally I like this one's looks quite a bit. I also find it looking a lot better than the new ID.3, although the new ID.3's size would probably work better for me at this stage in my life right now -- need to haul kids and stuff. The rear torsion beam is also a disappointment.
One of the first thoughts that came up in my mind is -- would it meet the rollover requirement for autox? My head is telling me it won't pass the rollover requirement, but I've been wrong plenty of times precisely on this question.
Wish it would be sold in the N.American market.
I wish VW would dump their paranoid leadership. They drop the 2 door GTI, wouldn't import the Scirocco, all afraid it might cut into sales of another model, well fine, no 2 door GTI, I'll buy something else. I don't cross shop either. Bought an ATS4 Cadillac instead. I loved my 2008 GTI, only complaint was it could have used another gear in the DSG and I loved the look of the Scirocco. VW you started the hot hatch thing but you let it go.
I need to replace my aging (197000 mile) 2013 Mazda 2. This would fit the bill nicely. And I'd park it next to my 87 16V Scirocco track car. Come on VW!!!!
Colin Wood said:I feel like there are a lot of people that would see that 99 mph top speed not as a limiting factor, but as a challenge.
After all, how many people can say they've reached their car's top speed?
I used to do it every day on the way to work, in three different cars.
Granted it is a lot easier when the top speed is 75 or 87 and not, say, 124...
Colin Wood said:I feel like there are a lot of people that would see that 99 mph top speed not as a limiting factor, but as a challenge.
After all, how many people can say they've reached their car's top speed?
As a Chevy Volt owner, I can say that.
It's a very appealing car IMO. Good range, good price, decent performance and nice lines. Would make a fine DD for my big-city lifestyle.
calteg said:and it won't be coming to the U.S. because....reasons
I would say... it is not a four door SUV or four door truck. >:0P
If we couldn't complain about whatever dumb thing vw was doing now, would we even talk about them at all 
Yuck. They spent money to switch from RWD to FWD.
Re the whole SUV thing, that's where the market is world wide. Ford is winding up Fiesta and Focus world wide. In Britain Ford shows three car models available Fiesta ST, Focus ST, and Mustang.
chaparral said:Yuck. They spent money to switch from RWD to FWD.
Interesting because the Polestar 2 is doing the opposite.
Looks like the Polestar design team drew it in one all-nighter. 3AM hit and they said "vertical line" *chef's kiss
I think parts of it is that they do not have enough EVs yet ,
Once they ramp up maybe they will get here , but will they come from Germany , Mexico or Brazil ?
But then each VW dealer will be required to buy spare parts , charging stations , etc for only a few cars ,
I think the new EV Minivan will keep them busy......
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