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AClockworkGarage
AClockworkGarage Reader
10/16/16 8:21 p.m.

In reply to Javelin:

CAM is specifically for American cars. If you've seen 240's running, your club's scrutineer sucks at his job.

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
10/16/16 8:33 p.m.
JohnRW1621 wrote: In reply to Ovid_and_Flem: I suspect you are not aware of it but you pretty well described Andrew Nelson's 2004 Challenge Car.

I would say great minds think alike but that would be an insult to mr. Nelson

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy PowerDork
10/16/16 8:46 p.m.

You're fairly far from me, which is a shame, because a bunch of interesting El Caminos have popped up on Craigslist.

ChrisHachet
ChrisHachet New Reader
10/17/16 7:21 a.m.
Brett_Murphy wrote: You're fairly far from me, which is a shame, because a bunch of interesting El Caminos have popped up on Craigslist.

Interesting, as I live in Central Ohio and they are very rarely sighted around here.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
10/17/16 7:38 a.m.

Must weigh 3000 lbs, but still... A few unconsidered options

Obvious, but easy is doing a milder version of this car

Be all of our hero, build an autocross version of this

With a v8 of course...

Then theres this Idea

The short wheelbase gives a lot of possibilities for the Gremlin...

STM317
STM317 HalfDork
10/17/16 7:47 a.m.

Squarebody S10s are cheap, lightweight, and v8 swaps/suspension upgrades are all well researched. You might have to add ballast to make minimum weight, but that's not a bad thing. Newer s10s would have most of the same qualities, just in a heavier form.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
10/17/16 8:01 a.m.

In reply to Javelin:

No. not legally anyway. Way outside the scope of CAM. You could see it run LsFest and optima but not CAM.

KyAllroad
KyAllroad UberDork
10/17/16 8:16 a.m.

https://www.facebook.com/Malibeast/?fref=ts

Friend of mine runs this. It'd probably be CAM if he didn't like race rubber, that lands him in EM. The car is a Beast and always a crowd favorite.

Spoolpigeon
Spoolpigeon PowerDork
10/17/16 9:07 a.m.

A square body s10 with an LS swap and AWD would is my imaginary CAM-T build.

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
10/17/16 9:33 a.m.
AClockworkGarage wrote: In reply to Javelin: CAM is specifically for American cars. If you've seen 240's running, your club's scrutineer sucks at his job.

Yes. Maybe it bears repeating. CAM stands for "Classic American Muscle". Muscle and Pony cars.

And while the rules are fairly open, entering a former SCCA racing Pinto slightly softened for street use would be against the spirit of the class - people complain about "rules creep" - well, THAT'S often how it happens.

Nick (Bo) Comstock
Nick (Bo) Comstock UltimaDork
10/17/16 10:04 a.m.

My 86 T/A with the 305 TPI/AUTO and T-Tops had a curb weight of 3405 pounds. I think the Pontiacs were heavier than the Chevy's.

Either way if go with an El Camino.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
10/17/16 10:05 a.m.
Spoolpigeon wrote: A square body s10 with an LS swap and AWD would is my imaginary CAM-T build.

Actually also not legal. Leave it RWD and it's CAM legal. And also on my list of lust. Right now, this is #1 on my lust list:

http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/5805095822.html

ChrisHachet
ChrisHachet New Reader
10/17/16 10:13 a.m.

That gremlin is kind of awesome!

petegossett
petegossett UltimaDork
10/17/16 11:01 a.m.
Bobzilla wrote: Right now, this is #1 on my lust list: http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/5805095822.html

Did yesterday have any influence on that?

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
10/17/16 11:16 a.m.
petegossett wrote:
Bobzilla wrote: Right now, this is #1 on my lust list: http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/5805095822.html
Did yesterday have any influence on that?

A little. Ok... a lot. It's something I've been wanting to do for a while anyway. I loved my 89 9C1. And this whole CAM thing is perfect for a landyacht like that. With large tires. And brakes. Lowered. With a nasty little LSx truck engine.

But.... swingin that P71 around the cones, sideways was just too much!

petegossett
petegossett UltimaDork
10/17/16 12:33 p.m.

In reply to Bobzilla:

It was awesome with the lights blazing and sirens screaming. Does it belong to a department?

Spoolpigeon
Spoolpigeon PowerDork
10/17/16 12:43 p.m.
Bobzilla wrote:
Spoolpigeon wrote: A square body s10 with an LS swap and AWD would is my imaginary CAM-T build.
Actually also not legal. Leave it RWD and it's CAM legal. And also on my list of lust. Right now, this is #1 on my lust list: http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/5805095822.html

You're right. I keep forgetting it's RWD only. I guess I can E36 M3can my Eldorado dream build too.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
10/17/16 1:32 p.m.

OK, so I spent the last 20 minutes of my lunch break making myself sadder. Koni has shocks, Hotchkiss has spring, umi has control arms, global west has front arms, addco/hotchkis on hte sway bars... About $2000 gets complete suspension make over, all new everything and upgraded and pads/rotors.

Got to stop looking.

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
10/17/16 2:34 p.m.
Apexcarver wrote: Must weigh 3000 lbs, but still... A few unconsidered options Obvious, but easy is doing a milder version of this car Be all of our hero, build an autocross version of this With a v8 of course... Then theres this Idea The short wheelbase gives a lot of possibilities for the Gremlin...

Vega gremlin Pinto Chevette Etc are not legal for a classic American Muscle as they are under 100 inch wheelbase rule

maschinenbau
maschinenbau Reader
10/17/16 3:21 p.m.

What class would an old-school hot rod compete in? Seems like 1954 is the oldest year for CAM-T.

SEADave
SEADave HalfDork
10/17/16 4:44 p.m.

Claimed running/driving big block '79 El Camino - $1,400 asking: http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/5829838362.html

Nice '78, asking quite a bit more (maybe too clean): http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/cto/5833150849.html

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago SuperDork
10/17/16 5:12 p.m.
SEADave wrote: Claimed running/driving big block '79 El Camino - $1,400 asking: http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/5829838362.html Nice '78, asking quite a bit more (maybe too clean): http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/cto/5833150849.html

I saw that '79 last night thanks to this thread too. Price seems suspect, compared to the rest on c-list around here.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
10/17/16 5:14 p.m.

well, that "bigblock" is a small block with cast iron manifolds. So there's that. I wonder what else is suspect.

AClockworkGarage
AClockworkGarage Reader
10/17/16 5:17 p.m.

In reply to SEADave:

That "big block" car with "good race tires and wheels" is like two streets from me. It's clearly a 305 with an edelbroke and dry rotted all seasons on camaro alloys. If he's willing to lie that blatantly (or is that stupid) I don't want to deal with him.

As for the white one, too rich for my blood. $2000 is my cap, I've got about $1100 saved right now. These are the current my-heart-will-break-when-it-sells-before-I-can-afford it picks:

https://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/cto/5787898054.html

and I could bring this one home today, and I probably should, but it isn't really what I want and I don't think I'd truly be happy:

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5830064758.html

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
10/17/16 5:19 p.m.

cutlass.... definitely.

Wait.... changed my mind: https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/5813253000.html

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