It looks as if a low powered, single cam car (to take advantage of the weight breaks) with a good chassis is the key here. How about a Focus with the 2.0 SPI motor?
It looks as if a low powered, single cam car (to take advantage of the weight breaks) with a good chassis is the key here. How about a Focus with the 2.0 SPI motor?
In reply to MadScientistMatt:
Yeah but the dropping of the valve seats is bothering. I thought a focus would be a good vehicle.
I was also thinking something like a B-spec would work well. But that is more than I am wanting to spend.
mazdeuce wrote: For springs, start reading about spring rubbers and bump stops. You have the ability to stack the shock shaft full of rubber and create whatever high wheel rate you want. Cover them up with a shock boot and nobody sees what's going one either so you can keep it a secret. The prelude might be winning because it's simply the best car to have within the given rules. That said, 2000 lbs min weight, 21 lbs/hp, look for cars that are rated at about 96 hp stock, that can reach min weight. That will give you a weight/tire advantage over the preludes. Then you just have to make power and hook it up. Easy peasy.
and that is why I am posting here. What is that car 
The 1990-92 Nissan Stanza had the KA24E 2.4 liter sohc engine (according to my reading) rated at something like 140 hp. It's one of the larger sohc 4 cyls that are out there. Whether you can make that into a race car or not.... I dunno.
I Am Keyser Söze wrote: There have been a few neons and they get pummeled by the preludes. Didn't think about the Mazda motor Escorts. What would you do that wasn't easily checked? BTW: No dyno at the track so it is based on stock HP
Gut/cut the intake manifold. There's big gains to be had in there. Swap exhaust manifold for the factory later tubular variant.
Run two exhaust cams. RX7 "B" code VAF.
It should end up with a power/weight ratio easily similar to the Preludes. The EGT weighed about 2300-2400 fully loaded, and Preludes are fat pigs.
I Am Keyser Söze wrote: I would love to run a competitive domestic. just because they are cheap and the locals would love it. S/R wouldn't be allowed due to performance version prohibited rule
Then it looks like these preludes better be base SOHC versions. Or are people actually dirt tracking the last gen ones?
How about a Celica?
Find a 3.0 Porsche 944, argue that it's not a performance car because it's not a 911.
Win.
Profit.
mw wrote: How about a 97+ prelude? That with an ecu flash and some stiff aftermarket springs sandblasted and left in the rain for a few days should be good.
They run the same H22 and weigh more I'm pretty sure.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: Find a 3.0 Porsche 944, argue that it's not a performance car because it's not a 911. Win. Profit.
You will also have to argue away that it is not fwd.
EDIT: Yes, I see my reading comprehension sucks. I confused with some rules from my local roundy track that I looked at last week.
jrw1621 wrote:92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: Find a 3.0 Porsche 944, argue that it's not a performance car because it's not a 911. Win. Profit.You will also have to argue away that it is not fwd.
From OP:
CAR TYPE Any front or rear wheel drive four-cylinder vehicle
What about those Lotus-suspended RWD Isuzu Impulse's? Porsche 924? Fiero??
I think the Porsche emblem might qualify it as a high performance car LOL
This is east TN, Deliverance wasn't filmed far from here.
Run a 240SX. You can get some N/A power from the stock KA24DE with some sneaky stuff. Run a cam, some higher compression pistons and do some porting.
"VW" 914? 
mini cooper? non-S and start adding S parts ?
Those are some crazily vague rules. I would buy something already built and see how lax the enforcement of the rules is, then base my ground-up build on maximum stretching/cheating of the rules with that knowledge.
It would suck to build a car to the "letter" of the rules and find out enforcement is so lax that you don't have a chance.
How about a B13 Sentra SE-R? I also think that, especially if you go FWD, you will want to sneak an LSD in there.
Not seen in the thread, but locally I have seen some GM J-body Cavaliers, Sunfires ect dominate. The early 90's ones especially. Dont know their secrets, but they do well at the local track.
I do know on the compression check they check #1 cylinder. Always
Guess which one is at spec?
the stanza is another good idea. I would think with either a stanza or a GD mazda you would have a good chance. both small cars, the GD with the f2 is rated at about 110 stock and the stanza, as said, was about 140.
get something with a decent suspension that has a super tall final gear so you can get some speed out lol.
so that'd probably be a honda.
I would spend plenty of time looking at other cars running first.
ShadowSix wrote: How about a B13 Sentra SE-R? I also think that, especially if you go FWD, you will want to sneak an LSD in there.
Not a problem, since it comes with LSD stock.
If you can find a used mechanical (VLSD) Nismo unit, that's a nice sneaky move. I think I got one of the last in North America though.
dont know that you could sneak an se-r in there either, considering what the "r" stands for
it says no performance cars and an se-r is probably considered such. just like an si would be. they'd prob consider a z24 a performance variant too.
Didn't the Sentra "SE" have basically the same motor though?
very similar rules to my track. Hondas seem to do the best in the FWD. But a RWD Nissan 240 sx, single cam engine to avoid the DOHC weight penalty, eats them for lunch.
that stanza idea is a winner. Use the 5sp from a maximaof the same vintage, they are often lsd.
I'm in for being crew!
How about an e21?
RWD so it's better already, around 100hp stock. Should be very easy to meet weight.
(By crew I really meant driver but I will be crew if you need me to)
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