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pinchvalve
pinchvalve MegaDork
11/14/17 8:39 a.m.

The First-gen Vibe GT was actually a pretty sporty little car.  Like many boneheaded-GM decisions, you could not get the big motor with the 5-speed, but the manual was still the way to go for maximum smiles.  Lowering and adding some rubber is the ticket for fun at the autocross.  They are dirt-cheap and pretty reliable and should fit a Tuba.  

A little out of the box thinking, but the SX4 can be found with a stick and AWD and while no autocross champ, they could be a lot of fun as a first car, especially in the snow belt.  Fitting a tuba might require KY however.  

The Kia Soul is a great little box, but it is the antithesis of an enthusiasts car.  Only car with a manual I ever drove that HATED to downshift, just refused to go into second under any circumstance.  The throws are longer than a box truck and the clutch is unpredictable.  Perfectly acceptable for calm driving, but turn it up and the Soul protests loudly.  NO ROOM for a tuba as well, even with seats down. 

The SAAB 900 (look for an SPG or Viggen) has a massive rear hatch that can actually swallow a tuba.  I would have killed for this as a first car; somehting different and unique, good handling, practical, oddball.  I have no idea about reliability however, my guess is they are either tanks or nightmares.  

If it were MY kid, I would go Mazda 3.  I loved the Mazdaspeed 3 of this gen, and the regular version is not much different.  Loose the big power that will get him in trouble, but keep the tight chassis and great handling.  This thing can kill it at the autocross and haul a tuba, probably.  

The Breadvan Civics never got much love, which means you might be able to get one cheap, and they might fit the hardware.  Certainly reliable and good on gas.  

And finally, he's been a good kid man.  Get him a Z3M Coupe dad! 

ojannen
ojannen Reader
11/14/17 8:52 a.m.

I had a Z3 Coupe.  Not big enough for a tuba in the back.  It was too narrow due to the way the wheel arches protrude in the trunk area.  

https://i.imgur.com/L2wZbUQ.jpg

On the other hand the 318ti, has the biggest hatch I have seen in a small RWD car


https://i.imgur.com/7ZgqHvj.jpg

texasjhawk77382
texasjhawk77382
9/26/22 4:08 p.m.

Any thoughts on a '10 Lexus ES 350?  It's high miles and would be a hand me down (and the dog's claws have already done a number on the back seat upholstery).  

triumph7
triumph7 HalfDork
9/26/22 9:06 p.m.
texasjhawk77382 said:

Any thoughts on a '10 Lexus ES 350?  It's high miles and would be a hand me down (and the dog's claws have already done a number on the back seat upholstery).  

Something tells me that, being five years later, they either found something or gave up.

ojannen
ojannen Reader
9/26/22 9:54 p.m.

I just want to say that in 2017, this was the most exciting topic of the year for me.  It was my time to shine.  I was pretty disappointed that we didn't get a resolution. 

Feedyurhed
Feedyurhed UltraDork
9/27/22 7:41 a.m.
triumph7 said:
texasjhawk77382 said:

Any thoughts on a '10 Lexus ES 350?  It's high miles and would be a hand me down (and the dog's claws have already done a number on the back seat upholstery).  

Something tells me that, being five years later, they either found something or gave up.

Ya, the ex-tuba playing son is probably married with 2 children of his own driving a mini van now. Seems like we have had several old threads resurrected here on GRM recently.

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