I recently did a few laps in a 360 Modena Spider with the F1 Transmission and it was pretty responsive. Not sure the budget, but I think it would be competitive.
I recently did a few laps in a 360 Modena Spider with the F1 Transmission and it was pretty responsive. Not sure the budget, but I think it would be competitive.
Toyobaru with manually shiftable auto? Should be very nearly as quick as the manual model.
Keep in mind that a DSG/twin clutch is a manual transmission that is shifted automatically. Some do have manual controls.
A guy in our region just grenaded a DSG in his VW. Thankfully covered under warranty.
GameboyRMH wrote: Toyobaru with manually shiftable auto? Should be very nearly as quick as the manual model.
On this note, Pete, we have a regular who autocrosses his automatic FRS. Maybe ask him for a codrive.
Whatever you can use a manual valve body or the option to hold any gear at any rpm shift kit/ECU programming. You biggest nemesis is getting the converter to "lock up" and stay locked. So, it may take a bunch of time and $ to get it right.
That being said, I am looking at a Mark8 and one of the first things is to restall the converter to 3k to make the car perform like it should, along with either a J-mod or full manual shift kit, and then go with a regear to something like a 4.30 or 4.56 to make it REALLY perform as it should.
another vote for Audi TT.
there was a stock one at the last local event i went to. surprised the poop out of me.
Spoolpigeon wrote:petegossett wrote: In reply to Spoolpigeon: Doesn't the DSG GTI have some ridiculously expensive and short service interval?That I don't know. He's been racing with us for ~5 years without any hiccups.
No personal experience, but from what I've read on TDIclub, a fluid change should be done every 40K miles. The fluid isn't cheap - $22/qt - but cheaper than the unicorn-blood fluid MINI specs for their manual transmissions.
idparts.com sells a OE-style tool to assist with the fluid change, but there may be cheaper options. Apparently it's pricey if you pay to have it done, but VW's are surprisingly DIY-friendly and guys usually develope work-arounds or sources for special tools if not.
In reply to mtn:
Oh, his car is definitely on "the list". Ideally, I'd(if I pursue this) I'd like a car that doesn't give up anything to its manual-equipped version. I'm not sure that technology exists without looking at Porsche/BMW, or old-school American muscle though. Not that there's anything wrong with either, I just prefer finesse...or AWD. 8)
Regarding my definition of competitive: I'd like something that wouldn't automatically be considered an "also-ran" at national events - either because of transmission choice, or the car its self.
I raped on my bone stock '98 auto Integra at the last two autocrosses of the NWORSCCA season last year. Did surprisingly well, actually. I was nice to be able to focus on getting the lines right instead of making sure I was in the right gear.
Thins is interesting. A bit of googling seems to indicate the GTI DSG is actually quicker than the manual...
Unfortunately, the FRS auto is significantly slower than the manual @ 7.2 vs 6.7 0-60.
Of course it's quicker, there's virtually no time lost between shifts. Such is the glory of the whole dual-clutch gearboxes. Just look at the Nissan GTR and Porsche units. Too bad Ford sally'd out on theirs and they feel like crap.
Anything with a DSG will be good, however I was quite partial to the automatic Ford Fiesta I autocrossed. It's also a fair bit more inexpensive than the VW/Audi/Porsche offerings mentioned here.
Why can not set up your miati to get nasty since you have it already and there many ways to get them to hook up and run very well. If not the first bet would as everyone else says work on the nut behind the wheel.
In reply to ckosacranoid:
It's a '96, so I'm stuck being an also-ran in STR. I have no desire to pull the Torsen and suffer driving it in STS, nor make it a basically unstreetable CSP car. And I hated the car stock, so I'm definitely not going back that direction either.
For now, I'm finally getting the quirks worked out of it, slowly, one by one. But I'm thinking of ideas for "what's next", which prompted this thread.
+1 to the suggestion of a F500, as long as you don't mind sounding like a snowblower and dealing with CVT tuning (I think it's one of those black arts, like 2 stroke pipe design), I think a decent F-Mod F500 is about THE fastest you can go without wings, and certainly about the simplest (excluding the tuning aspect of the drivetrain) and cheapest ways to go that fast. And they are freakin tiny (makes a LeGrand B-mod look big, think about FSAE size and you're not far off) so trailering and storing it shouldn't be much of a concern
Along the lines of CP, you could also go DM/EM.
I believe that DM/EM rabble-rouser Del Long's current project is being developed with a GM 1.4T mated to a directly driven (no torque converter) powerglide 2-speed automatic.
In reply to Driven5:
For a very brief second, the thought of stuffing a DSG drivetrain in the Europa crossed my mind...
But it's already enough of a project, I don't need to complicate things even more.
petegossett wrote: Unfortunately, the FRS auto is significantly slower than the manual @ 7.2 vs 6.7 0-60.
It's worth considering that this could be due to the more "eco-friendly" longer gearing on the auto box. That shouldn't be entirely bad in autocross, although of course you'll lose some power everywhere because it's still mechanically a slushbox.
Budget?
A new auto, 5.0 Mustang will have no trouble running an entire AX course in second gear, and be competitive in FS or ESP.
Hmm...and with the prices people have been getting on base GT's...
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5425197-Mark-Smith-amp-Audi-TT-3.2q-are-SCCA-Solo-Champions!
Has anyone done well in a Lancer Ralliart?
Was sad to hear that is only available with a DSG.
Is it an actual DSG or a shiftable auto
I'm curious to see if this lives up to the hype, and where it gets classed. Since it will be almost a year before it's released, the timing may work out right for buying one.
http://www.kbb.com/car-news/all-the-latest/2015-volkswagen-gti-first-review-the-once-and-future-king/2000009296/
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