What EV would you consider?

I know this community feels strongly, both ways, about EVs. I have my own opinions as well. If you have something negative to say about EVs, how about you find another thread to post in so this does not get locked like all the others. That would be great. It reminds me of the whole Ford vs Chevy vs Dodge truck fight (when we all know the Toyota Hilux/Tacoma is the best truck ever).

I am very much ICE cars, but when this EV Truck comes out for sale, I am probably going to be in that showroom drooling. They also have some other retro cool concepts based on the same chassis. If I wasn't so cheap I'd invest in this company.

Reasons: 

I need a home owner truck, just one to go to the box store and go to work in. I don't really care about range other than getting me 17 miles to work and 2-10 miles around my house doing errands. I fully admit I will have an ICE vehicle (for the rest of my life) to do road trips, etc. The Wolf fits my needs just as my Tacoma does and is just as berkeleying cool, if not more. The concept, as it still is, has a photovoltaic cell that goes from the rollbar to the tailgate to help charge the batteries. It has all the hauling capacity I need, and really could probably tow most of my vehicles if I bought an aluminum trailer. I am sure there are more reasons.

How about we be civil about our EV vehicle likes opinions and if you don't like EVs just don't post.

What EV would you buy and why?

I'd lease (not buy) the cheapest most affordable EV to use as a boring transportation appliance that I didn't care about. EVs I've considered in the past/now:
1) Chevrolet Bolt EV (not the EUV)
2) Volkswagen ID.4 Standard RWD
3) Volvo EX30
4) Mini Cooper EV (next gen, not current)

They're all "affordable" when you stack federal and my local incentives (NJ ChargeUp) and do the job and 2 of 4 options offer to basically set you up completely (paying for the electric install, etc). I'd lease because battery technology is changing rapidly so I would accept the fact that I'd basically be renting the vehicle but that is fine to me because I've seen some pretty good lease deals on the ID.4's. I could lease for the exact mileage of how much I commute a year to work (around 10k or less) and I'd have set costs with zero worry.

In reply to preach :

I am waiting for a Civic Si, VW GTI, or something similar, with decent driving dynamics and 300+ mile range.  Reading articles like this:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g29994375/future-electric-cars-trucks/

Makes me worried that i'll be waiting a few years.  Theres too much SUV love (and profit) to cater to enthusiasts yet.  

A close 2nd would be a lexus isf/is500 type car thats all electric.  I think toyota would be a step above the germans when it comes to long term reliability, which is why the i4, taycan and similar don't really interest me.  
 

Flynlow (FS) said:

In reply to preach :

I am waiting for a Civic Si, VW GTI, or something similar, with decent driving dynamics and 300+ mile range.  Reading articles like this:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g29994375/future-electric-cars-trucks/

Makes me worried that i'll be waiting a few years.  Theres too much SUV love (and profit) to cater to enthusiasts yet.  

A close 2nd would be a lexus isf/is500 type car thats all electric.  I think toyota would be a step above the germans when it comes to long term reliability, which is why the i4, taycan and similar don't really interest me.  
 

It's actually funny that you just posted about the Taycan. That's probably currently the only EV I'd ever buy for sporting purposes but they are EXPENSIVE, and oddly enough, have a lot of teething issues. I always thought that Porsche got their act together later on in life to be almost "Toyota"-like in reliability. Here's to hoping when Toyota/Lexus step into the game seriously, they release an awesome sports EV.

I was waiting for a GTI equivalent.  Bolt was close but tall and goofy proportions.  Low end Tesla 3 has caught my interest as well.

That said, I just moved to an apartment, so no EVs are on the table as I don't have a place to charge.  If you have to rely soley on public charging, they are a non starter.

I like the volvo EX30, but it's a bit too small for my needs. The C40 is a bit too SUV for me.  I am really liking the newly revised Polestar2. 

In reply to RyanGreener (Forum Supporter) :

Yeah, i looked at them semi-seriously as well, and then realized i'd be paying $100k+ for a car i only kind of want.  Which is utterly ridiculous.  I am hoping the lexus mirrors the current is500 price delta and winds up at $60-70k for a better product.  I was a bmw fan for a long time, but with the manual disappearing from most of their non-m cars, and being a moot point on electrics anyway, lexus makes a pretty compelling case as possibly the best sports sedan.  

In reply to Flynlow (FS) :

Wouldn't a model 3 be the closest ev to be "isf type"?

mad_machine said:

I like the volvo EX30, but it's a bit too small for my needs. The C40 is a bit too SUV for me.  I am really liking the newly revised Polestar2. 

I thought the Polestar 2 is pretty cool except its basically based on a non electric platform which makes it relatively inefficient and all. It's also a bit "raised" compared to traditional sedan like the Model 3.

At this point, any of them that could be bought around or under $30k. 

Bil has a bolt euv that would fit the bill nicely.

If I could afford it, rivian really is the top of my list because it's pretty much what I need in a vehicle. 

We're just so far from being able to handle a car payment of any sort that it really doesn't matter. 

ProDarwin said:

I was waiting for a GTI equivalent.  Bolt was close but tall and goofy proportions.  Low end Tesla 3 has caught my interest as well.

That said, I just moved to an apartment, so no EVs are on the table as I don't have a place to charge.  If you have to rely soley on public charging, they are a non starter.

The new generation Mini Cooper EV looks like it'll play into that role.

On the dealership's waiting list... ready to buy!

bludroptop said:

On the dealership's waiting list... ready to buy!

 

Congrats. Wish they brought the SWB version here. I feel like the general cost of EVs is high, but this LWB version is gonna cost big $$$$!

Nobody seems to make one in the right body style for me yet. 1/4 ton pickup would be primo.

RyanGreener (Forum Supporter) said:

ProDarwin said:

I was waiting for a GTI equivalent.  Bolt was close but tall and goofy proportions.  Low end Tesla 3 has caught my interest as well.

That said, I just moved to an apartment, so no EVs are on the table as I don't have a place to charge.  If you have to rely soley on public charging, they are a non starter.

The new generation Mini Cooper EV looks like it'll play into that role.

The Mini Cooper S EV is s hoot to drive, but sadly it's rather short range (116mi) makes it a bit of a nonstarter for me.

If I had to buy one, the Ioniq5 wins just for sheer style alone, and I'd really love the Ioniq5 N. But pricey for my means though

NickD said:

RyanGreener (Forum Supporter) said:

ProDarwin said:

I was waiting for a GTI equivalent.  Bolt was close but tall and goofy proportions.  Low end Tesla 3 has caught my interest as well.

That said, I just moved to an apartment, so no EVs are on the table as I don't have a place to charge.  If you have to rely soley on public charging, they are a non starter.

The new generation Mini Cooper EV looks like it'll play into that role.

The Mini Cooper S EV is s hoot to drive, but sadly it's rather short range (116mi) makes it a bit of a nonstarter for me.

If I had to buy one, the Ioniq5 wins just for sheer style alone, and I'd really love the Ioniq5 N. But pricey for my means though

Well I'm mostly referring to the next generation one that is supposed to be released in a year or two which will basically have double the range.

In reply to yupididit :

I don't like Musk (meaning i refuse to buy one of his cars), and the quality of Teslas and how they operate as a company with regard to repairs and support after the sale, as well as used car values is....let's just say uneven.  

I know I'm odd, but something small with a top speed of 55-60mph, a range of ~100mi, and a price under $20k with a/c would be really nice. 

I'm more inclined to get a hybrid because of the range, but that aside, I'd be looking at a Kia EV6. They're the right size for my wife and I, and are very nice looking. Currently, our around town cars are her Scion xB and my R53 MINI, so small works for us. Eventually there will be smaller electric choices and we'll very likely get one of those.

I'd maybe consider a PHEV like the Honda Clarity or Toyota Prius Prime. If buying purely for fun, maybe the new Dodge Challenger E or whatever that is coming out soon.

In reply to 90BuickCentury :

I was passed by a red Prius a few days ago. It's gorgeous.

bludroptop said:

On the dealership's waiting list... ready to buy!

 

 

Sick. Congrats! I tried to talk the wife into one.

I'm thinking along the same lines as Preach, almost.  My wife currently has a Volvo XC60 that will get replaced by an electric car in 6-8 years (or whenever it dies).  I have older ICE stuff, but none of it is seeing high mileage.  So my plan is to use the FJ Cruiser for cargo and towing, the TR6 for fun, and the new EV for reliable, comfy transport.

If I had to choose right now, I'd go with a Kia EV6.  Hopefully there will be more, better, and cheaper options 6 years from now.

In reply to Flynlow (FS) :

Supposedly the LFA replacement will be an EV hypercar, with a suspected pricetag to match.

Not an EV, but I've really been loving the Volvo V60 recharge. 44 miles of electric range, decently quick, much cheaper than any of the German uber wagons

I've driven several, including some of the latest BMW offerings. They are beautiful vehicles. 
 

Honestly, the price point is too big an issue for me. I've owned over 100 cars, and only had a car loan once. 
 

EVs seem to be riding a wave of public popularity, with price tags to match. 
 

So, the only one that has actually interested me to buy is the Bolt.  It's the only one that seems to have nearly the right balance between the specs and the price point.