Crackers
Crackers HalfDork
8/28/17 8:49 p.m.

So I typed out this exhaustive wordy post but I decided to summarize.

What kind of racing can a person do with a 50 year old station wagon body swapped onto a modern-ish chassis?

I can't get Uncle Ben titled without a VIN inspection done. I can't do that until it's running and driving. (It's an out of state car, and the paperwork I have is useless. The aforementioned inspection is required for a bonded title.)

I'm afraid to put all the work into the wagon only to find out I can't get a bonded title either.

So in a worse case scenario, is there somewhere I could put this thing and have it competitive without having to spend an ass load of cash?

Where would something like that go in autocross?

Or should I cut my losses, part everything out and start over? (I'd actually make a few bucks more than I have invested)

Yes, this is the summarized version.

rslifkin
rslifkin SuperDork
8/28/17 8:58 p.m.

If it's got some semblance of ground clearance and is durable enough, it might have rallycross potential if nothing else.

Patrick
Patrick MegaDork
8/28/17 8:59 p.m.

Why can't you tow it to the inspection prior to cutting? Or have you cut already. I regularly tow non running incomplete stuff for out of state inspections here in ohio

irish44j
irish44j UltimaDork
8/28/17 9:02 p.m.

What kind of wagon are we talking about?

Robbie
Robbie UberDork
8/28/17 9:03 p.m.

American? CAM sounds like your autox class...

Ps, please don't drop "50 year old station wagon body swapped onto a modern ish chassis" without details again.

759NRNG
759NRNG Dork
8/28/17 9:13 p.m.

Crackers, does the import chassis have a Texas title ? Have you gone to TX.gov (dmv)?

Crackers
Crackers HalfDork
8/28/17 9:16 p.m.
Patrick wrote: Why can't you tow it to the inspection prior to cutting? Or have you cut already. I regularly tow non running incomplete stuff for out of state inspections here in ohio

All I've cut so far are the bolts for the front bumper. I was juuust about to take the grinder/sawzall to it when I thought, "Maybe I should check to make sure I don't have any title issues before I do anything irreversible."

TXDot specifically requires the car to be fully operational.

Chadeux
Chadeux Dork
8/28/17 9:19 p.m.
Crackers
Crackers HalfDork
8/28/17 9:23 p.m.

irish44j and Robbie:

It's a 68 Rambler American wagon, going onto a Lexus SC300. I'm keeping all the Lexus chassis/drivetrain.

I started a build thread for Uncle Ben but it's a victim of Photogate.

bmw88rider
bmw88rider SuperDork
8/28/17 9:26 p.m.

Have you called TXdot? They told me the last time I was there that there was no longer a VIN inspection requirement for out of state cars. I titled my last 2 cars from outside Texas with no issues and the second one no title or inspection. (it was from a state that no longer does titles over a certain age) I was surprised honestly how easy both of those dealings went.

Crackers
Crackers HalfDork
8/28/17 9:28 p.m.
759NRNG wrote: Crackers, does the import chassis have a Texas title ? Have you gone to TX.gov (dmv)?

No title for either. The Lexus was a no title parts car.

DMV was about as helpful as nipples on a breastplate.

Crackers
Crackers HalfDork
8/28/17 9:37 p.m.

I was going to RallyX it, but RallyX events are too sparse locally for a dedicated car. (Unless I'm unaware of more events.) Also, I think 106" wheelbase might a bit long for a competitive RallyX car. I really don't know though.

Ground clearance hasn't been determined yet. I'll decide on ride height according to end use.

Crackers
Crackers HalfDork
8/28/17 9:39 p.m.

In reply to bmw88rider:

It's only required as part of the bonded title nonsense.

rslifkin
rslifkin SuperDork
8/29/17 7:29 a.m.

In reply to Crackers:

106" wheelbase isn't too bad at all. Not all that much longer than the typical Subarus and such, just a few extra inches. Don't send it totally sideways between cones and you'll fit on the course just fine.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
8/29/17 7:35 a.m.

Issa kit car. You made all of it from scratch.at least that's what id tell them. Or play extremely dirty pool and title it in a state that gives no berkeleys and then retitle it in Texas. At least that way you'd have one to start on.

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
8/29/17 7:42 a.m.

what cars vin are you using???? I would start by running that vin and make sure it is clean.

oldrotarydriver
oldrotarydriver New Reader
8/29/17 8:00 a.m.
mndsm wrote: Issa kit car. You made all of it from scratch.at least that's what id tell them. Or play extremely dirty pool and title it in a state that gives no berkeleys and then retitle it in Texas. At least that way you'd have one to start on.

Seconding this. Somewhere in the daily GRM / Garage Journal trawls, I came across titling a vehicle through Vermont. Based on the age of the vehicle, they don't give a berkeley about anything but the VIN and a check.

STM317
STM317 Dork
8/29/17 8:08 a.m.

Tub it and go straight line racing?

floatingdoc
floatingdoc New Reader
8/29/17 8:15 a.m.

Read through the whole build thread. Good read, even without the pictures, although I wish I could have seen that e-brake handle.

After all that work, surely there's a way to get it titled!

Love ramblers, and currently dd my sixth wagon (and I tend to keep my cars for at least a decade). Hopefully gets finished, and I can see a picture.

LanEvo
LanEvo Reader
8/29/17 9:14 a.m.

I'm thinking nitrous, then drag.

Crackers
Crackers HalfDork
8/29/17 10:30 a.m.

I have no issues with playing dirty. Me thinks I need more information on how to make that happen.

Dean, I don't want to do this unless it I can keep a pre emissions VIN. Someday I want to go back to CA and if I have this that long, I don't want to have to abandon it because of emissions mumbo jumbo.

I'm not worried about the VIN. I have the title for it, but it's not filled out correctly and was rejected.

Like I said. Nipples on a breastplate.

Crackers
Crackers HalfDork
8/29/17 10:35 a.m.
floatingdoc wrote: Read through the whole build thread. Good read, even without the pictures, although I wish I could have seen that e-brake handle. After all that work, surely there's a way to get it titled! Love ramblers, and currently dd my sixth wagon (and I tend to keep my cars for at least a decade). Hopefully gets finished, and I can see a picture.

I'll go back and fix pictures if I don't sell it off.

irish44j
irish44j UltimaDork
8/29/17 3:31 p.m.
Crackers wrote: irish44j and Robbie: It's a 68 Rambler American wagon, going onto a Lexus SC300. I'm keeping all the Lexus chassis/drivetrain. I started a build thread for Uncle Ben but it's a victim of Photogate.

FYI there's a hack for Photosuckit if you use Chrome browser. Look it up. I use Chrome, and I can see all of your pics, in the thread

NOHOME
NOHOME UltimaDork
8/29/17 4:55 p.m.

Here in Ontario there is a court of last resort that involves a notary public. Hot Rod friends have used this to tittle rotted hulks that they pulled out of creeks and farms. Essentially a "I have no paper but I declare I did not steal this wreck" Maybe a self made sales slip if required and no-one is going to question it.

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