What would make the best racing series?

The Continental Tire Challenge/Koni challenge has really had the best formula around for the past few years. True Production bodies, massive fields, dozens of makes and models, more competition than any other series. I look forward to the Touring cars more than the Rolex cars when they come to Watkins Glen for the 6 hours.

THIS!!!

Ok, seriously, anything production based, and on a road coarse with close racing. Even if the cars just look like real cars helps. Im not sure why the manufactures give so much coin to Nextel cup when road racing seems like it has alot more relevence to the showroom models.

Production uni-body. Max weight, max tire size with one fairly hard compound, and X amount of fuel with a targeted 25mpg. No pit stops except for damage. Any production engine with stock internals, any suspension. Lets encourage the manufactures to do some R&D on the track again.

spdracer315 wrote: THIS!!! Ok, seriously, anything production based, and on a road coarse with close racing. Even if the cars just look like real cars helps. Im not sure why the manufactures give so much coin to Nextel cup when road racing seems like it has alot more relevence to the showroom models.

the money is in NASCAR, since that's where most of the eyeballs at home wind up and what puts the most butts in the seats at the tracks. they also sell a LOT of merchandise. and it's been Sprint Cup for a couple of years now, since Sprint bought out Nextel..

I always thought that a good starter series that ran a low entry price would be handy. The rules would be simply arrive on Friday for tech, weigh in, and dyno. Race on Saturday with a PAXish type modifier. Only that modifier would be like the drag races. The variance in power/weight would modify your start time but given the race length everyone should finish at the same time. Cars would be sequestered after tech. Tech check, corner weights, and a a few dyno pulls for a lower initial cost and then the racing would be really cheap is kind of what I was thinking. Of course you could break it down into smaller classes to avoid course crowding. An example: a bone stock civic against a Corvette that has been highly tuned. They both would have to complete X number of laps on the track but the civic would get a huge head start. The advantage would be to the slower car on more tighter technical courses and the faster car on faster wide open courses.

Otherwise - stage rally. Group B would be nice to see again. I always liked the semis on Pikes Peak too.

ReverendDexter wrote: Showroom stock with classing based on MSRP (suggested starting classes of $20k, $25k, and $50k). Cars must be exactly as they rolled off the showroom floor. No changes allowed (including paint/visual), except for addition of specified set of safety equipment. Alignment settings, tire pressures, and fuel grade must be within factory spec. Cars must be 50-state legal, mass-produced (no hyper-limited production models), and sold to the general public. Goal is "buy it, race it", with ulterior motive to have manufacturers create lower-priced sportier vehicles under classing price points.

And when 1 manufacturer dominates the series, DO NOT, D O N O T add ballast/restrictor plates to slow them down. Make the other manufacturers actually COMPETE to make a better faster car.

how about targa newfoundland in various cities around the us.

Spec Sealed Tank.

250HP minimum 2000lb minimum 25 gallon tank Endurance format. Must RACE the course, not putt around for best MPG. Minimum track speeds enforced.

4eyes wrote:

ReverendDexter wrote: Showroom stock with classing based on MSRP (suggested starting classes of $20k, $25k, and $50k). Cars must be exactly as they rolled off the showroom floor. No changes allowed (including paint/visual), except for addition of specified set of safety equipment. Alignment settings, tire pressures, and fuel grade must be within factory spec. Cars must be 50-state legal, mass-produced (no hyper-limited production models), and sold to the general public. Goal is "buy it, race it", with ulterior motive to have manufacturers create lower-priced sportier vehicles under classing price points.

And when 1 manufacturer dominates the series, DO NOT, D O N O T add ballast/restrictor plates to slow them down. Make the other manufacturers actually COMPETE to make a better faster car.

Exactly! If this means lots of homogolation specials (mass-produced, mind you), all the better

My thought would be a 5,000 minimum unit production to qualify as "mass-produced".