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Patrick (Forum Supporter)
Patrick (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/1/20 8:35 a.m.

No wheelskins for these and it doesn't help the bent rim or it would be a good way to go.  
 

I don't really want OE wheels, chrysler wheel finish seems to blow pretty hard if you, you know, drive the car when it's wet or snowy.  
 

checked refinishing, it's about the same as new decent aftermarket wheels local or online before they probably tell me they can't fix the bent one

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
8/1/20 9:06 a.m.

In reply to Patrick (Forum Supporter) :

Ugh. I guess I forget how long it's been since I had it done. I think I paid $450 to have a set of wheels media blasted and powder coated.

But that was probably 2008-2009?

Patrick (Forum Supporter)
Patrick (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/2/20 9:52 p.m.

Ordered some 20x8.5 mustang fitment wheels on sale, i can machine the center bore if needed.  The offset is close, but will test fit before i order tires just in case.  Worst case they fit the Q45 or i sell them locally.  Best case i bore the center to charger size and they sit nice and flush and I order the tires.  

Bjorn 1349
Bjorn 1349 New Reader
8/2/20 10:55 p.m.

Are you looking for "cheap" wheels or "nice" wheels? Despite having your standard tuner cars for the past 18 years I've had good luck with nlmotoring for cheap wheels and FRSport as well. I know XXRs are typically considered cast junk but I thought they had some nice designs and sizing for the money. The finish was meh but for the price, totally acceptable.

 

I'm probably telling you all stuff you already know but:

 

It takes some sorting and browsing:  vividracing has "nice" wheels and so does evasivemotorsports

Patrick (Forum Supporter)
Patrick (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/3/20 5:16 a.m.

In reply to Bjorn 1349 :

Usually shop at the intersection of cheap and nice, so i was looking in the $800/set range.  However the mustang wheels, that may or may not work, were on sale for $85 each.  At that price if i can make them work great, if not I can probably sell them locally for that or more.  

Vigo (Forum Supporter)
Vigo (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/3/20 10:02 a.m.

I always wanted to try the router with the bearing bit trick but never got around to it. Now i own almost no 'excess' wheels. Kinda boring..

Patrick (Forum Supporter)
Patrick (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/3/20 10:34 a.m.

In reply to Vigo (Forum Supporter) :

I have a dedicated router bit with 6 different size bearings for it.  Works great.  
 

rande
rande New Reader
8/3/20 8:20 p.m.

If you are looking for OE wheels try  www.wheel-size.com

Put in the wheel specs you are looking for and it will show you what vehicles use that size.  

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/3/20 9:47 p.m.
buzzboy said:

2014(and maybe other years) Mustangs were available with a 8.5x19 et40(or 50) with a 5x114.3 bolt center.

114.3mm is 4.5".  Many vehicles since the dawn of the universe (ok, maybe just the last 100 years) have used a 5x4.5" pattern.  It is even the most common pattern for 5-lug trailers.

Summit has a massive selection of wheels.  Most of them you'll find are a bit catered to the American Muscle, but you'll find a ton of others.  They are not only a distributor, but also a sales agent for those wheel brands the sell.  So, since they stock Enkei wheels in 5x4.75 with zero offset for everyone's Camaro or Cutlass means they can also order and drop ship Enkei with 5x114.3 and a +32 et from the manufacturer.

If you do order from Summit, please give them a little grace.  They truly are the Crutchfield of performance parts.  Amazing company with great customer service, easy returns, lighting shipping.  Right now during Covid, they are a bit rough around the edges.  I've been ordering from Summit since back in the day when you filled out an order form from the catalog and sent a check with an actual envelope and a stamp.  They are rockstars.

Tire Rack is an equally amazing company, but I don't find their selection or pricing to be quite as favorable.  Discount tire direct is another good one.

The good thing is that the 5x4.5 is so common as far back as the 40s, so you'll have no trouble finding some.  You could really twist people's brains and slap some Mustang wheels on it.  Many of them in later years were a positive offset.

Same goes for P71s.  After the [insert year that I forget] suspension redesign, those wheels would fit as well.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/3/20 9:51 p.m.
Patrick (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to Vigo (Forum Supporter) :

I have a dedicated router bit with 6 different size bearings for it.  Works great.  
 

You guys convinced me to try this for my B4000.  It worked like a million bucks.  I used a 3/8" flush cut bit, but swapped for a 1/2" bearing so I wasn't cutting it quite flush.  I had to remove a lip inside the outer edge of the hub bore to let some old-school 4x4 locking hubs stick through.

I think at least 80% of my hearing has come back since then.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/3/20 10:07 p.m.
Patrick (Forum Supporter) said:

Ordered some 20x8.5 mustang fitment wheels on sale, i can machine the center bore if needed.  The offset is close, but will test fit before i order tires just in case.  Worst case they fit the Q45 or i sell them locally.  Best case i bore the center to charger size and they sit nice and flush and I order the tires.  

Trust me on one thing.  I know that 0.7mm doesn't seem like much, but the 4.5" circle and the 115mm circle are actually different.... by 0.7mm.  There were some Ford hubs that said they were 115mm when they were actually 114.3, but the Mopar is a true 115mm.

Try it first by hogging them out and bolting them on, but you might get a wobble or abnormal tire wear.  The reason is, the first lug that gets tightened will center the nut on that lug and pull it off-center by 0.35mm.  It doesn't seem like much, but it can cause headaches.  I would do my best to attempt to make your hub bores as close to perfect as you can.

In my case, I wasn't actually changing the inner side of the hub bore, I was just getting rid of a lip on the outside so my hubs would fit, but even that caused me headaches.  The wheels bolted up just fine and were centered, but (if you look at my pictures) my router work wasn't perfect.  When they used those conical seats on the balancer, the outside wasn't perfect.  It took a good bit of time and trial and error to get them balanced.

0.35mm doesn't seem like much, but at 800 rpms on the road, it can make a difference.

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