Whistling diesel bought a (slow) Red Bull F1 car.

Not sure if he will diesel swap it and then run it into something but the first episode is quite amusing. 

https://youtu.be/u2WDx6NU66w?si=0rBmUdx6_riQqdIG

He is looking for a shop to repower it. It did not come with a drive train.

bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter) said:

 ...the first episode is quite amusing. 

 

I can vouch for the veracity of this statement. 

I am a new subscriber to that channel after I saw the episode with the truck with all the turbos, but I'm not sure that I will like a channel that seems to get off on destroying perfectly good cars. I guess I'll watch and see. As for the F1 car, it should get a Judd V8 or V10

loosecannon said:

... As for the F1 car, it should get a Judd V8 or V10

Or a rotary with 4+ sections.

I would accept an LS swap in the spirit of F5000. I know, they're played out and everything. But still, that noise coming from a formula car...

Hmm, C8 drivetrain. 

Keith Tanner said:

I would accept an LS swap in the spirit of F5000. I know, they're played out and everything. But still, that noise coming from a formula car...

Hmm, C8 drivetrain. 

You should certainly offer your services Keith.

kb58 said:

loosecannon said:

... As for the F1 car, it should get a Judd V8 or V10

Or a rotary with 4+ sections.

Given that F1 cars have used the engines as stressed members, and a rotary is basically a stack of loosely assembled pancakes sort of loosely located by dowels to allow for thermal expansion, that sounds like a really really bad idea without making a superstructure that would probably be overweight or underbuilt or both.

Multi rotor engines also tend to cost in the "damn it'd be cheaper to just buy a DFV" range.  I think a four rotor eccentric shaft alone is about $20k and then you need the rest of the engine.

Once you get past two rotors, you see, the shaft needs to be multipiece in order to even assemble it.  3 rotor engines have two piece shafts and 4 rotor have three piece. The shaft is full length and the front or front and rear lobes slide on and have to do so in such a way that they are a tight fit that can't rotate despite harmonic stresses trying to rip the joint apart. 

And then there's the weirdnesses you have to do to get oil to the center bearings that you have to make a way to locate. 

Interesting. A video popped up on my YT a few weeks ago about a company that was repowering 70s/80s F1 cars with something more durable and user friendly.

Edit: TDF racing.  TDF

Ok, prices have come down a LOT for multirotor engine parts!

A four rotor engine, even a "short" one (uses three 2 rotor intermediates instead of one or two "wide" ones) is going to be over three feet long, so not sure how it'd fit.

WD trying to destroy a HiLux is my favorite at least the first episode.  I cringed several times while he destroyed a perfectly good truck, but he said "not gunna lie I'm impressed". 

Pete. (l33t FS) said:

kb58 said:

loosecannon said:

... As for the F1 car, it should get a Judd V8 or V10

Or a rotary with 4+ sections.

Given that F1 cars have used the engines as stressed members, and a rotary is basically a stack of loosely assembled pancakes sort of loosely located by dowels to allow for thermal expansion, that sounds like a really really bad idea without making a superstructure that would probably be overweight or underbuilt or both.

Multi rotor engines also tend to cost in the "damn it'd be cheaper to just buy a DFV" range.  I think a four rotor eccentric shaft alone is about $20k and then you need the rest of the engine.

Once you get past two rotors, you see, the shaft needs to be multipiece in order to even assemble it.  3 rotor engines have two piece shafts and 4 rotor have three piece. The shaft is full length and the front or front and rear lobes slide on and have to do so in such a way that they are a tight fit that can't rotate despite harmonic stresses trying to rip the joint apart. 

And then there's the weirdnesses you have to do to get oil to the center bearings that you have to make a way to locate. 

who cares about money here or logic. its whistlin diesel. its about views and shenningans and I'm here for it, any of it really. 

What did he spend on the Redbull F1 car? 

fidelity101 said:

who cares about money here or logic. its whistlin diesel. its about views and shenningans and I'm here for it, any of it really. 

Hence my suggestion for using a rotary. The whole LS3-swap thing is so overdone, it'll get little attention, F1 car or not. Since YT is all about over-the-top videos, I think the rotary is more fitting. Does it make sense for an actual, real-world, affordable swap? Of course not, but like you said, this isn't about logic, and besides, it's not our money, time, and labor...

kevinatfms said:

What did he spend on the Redbull F1 car? 

$550,000

In reply to kb58 :

Or something crazy like a short stroke crank for that LS and rev it to the moon with 180 degree over-transaxle headers.

The thing is, the LS valvetrain gets very expensive once you want an engine to live at speed.  A co worker was going to build a 9000rpm 4.8 for his Miata but stopped when he realized that most of the engine build money sunk into the top end, and all of those parts are regular maintenance items.  So he went with a built LS2 to trade displacement for screaming fun.

I don't generally like the guy, his humor isn't for me. Except upside down Tesla. that was brilliant. This could be interesting