Who’s dumber; me or the rental Rogue?

The average speed seems more common than I thought. 

My 2011 Elantra does the same thing, you can see avg mpg, avg mph, and elapsed time since last reset. In addition to the normal odometer and trip odometer, but no instantaneous mpg or mph  

So it’s not a stupid question to ask then: if I drive 70 on the highway and 25-40 on the roads to and from, who the hell cares what the AVERAGE is?

Me to Police Officer: yeah yeah, I was driving 85 but I was only doing 30 on the on-ramp sooooo  my average is 57.5...

I seriously question whether new cars are safer. I cannot even turn the berkeleying radio on in my wifes new Honda. It has three video screens and literally hundreds of controls. I can either look at that bewildering array or the road. I choose the road and drive in silence.

Ah come on people! It’s so simple. You just need to go to the Nissan dealership and pick up one of the optional speed indicators and mount it to the left side view mirror:

Make sure to compensate for head and tail winds.

You can also tie a fairly thick rope to a stick that is bolted to the front bumper within you site.  Whatever angle the rope is at, is you speed.  It kind of like a HUD since you can see it while you are looking at the road.

bearmtnmartin said:

I seriously question whether new cars are safer. I cannot even turn the berkeleying radio on in my wifes new Honda. It has three video screens and literally hundreds of controls. I can either look at that bewildering array or the road. I choose the road and drive in silence.

Someone had a Tesla 3 at the local Cars and Coffee last week.  How do you open the glove box you ask? Well, let’s see... it’s in one of these menus... yes, no button or latch.

I asked him if there is any mechanical way to open the doors (you know, in case the car blue screens or something).  He had no idea. 

We got my wife's '14 Impala in 14 with 19 thousand miles on it. I didn't reset the average speed. It was 25 mph or so. It now has 70k on it, and, yep, it still says 25 mph. 

I'm already used to the whole not being able to read the speedometer thing.  In a lot of cars, I find that once I've got the seat and steering wheel in comfortable positions, I end up with the top 50% of the speedometer blocked by the top of the steering wheel meaning I can't see it without moving my head.  

rslifkin said:

I'm already used to the whole not being able to read the speedometer thing.  In a lot of cars, I find that once I've got the seat and steering wheel in comfortable positions, I end up with the top 50% of the speedometer blocked by the top of the steering wheel meaning I can't see it without moving my head.  

Wife’s mazda5 is like this. Drives me batty.

Dusterbd13-michael said:

I saw that.

As well as the conversation about average speed display (pointless in my opinion), etc.

 

My 12 impala company car has the info screen of everything but current speed. I honestly thought it was just gm being stupid.

even my 500 has an instant speed display in the information display in the centre of the cluster. Granted, the largest display on that screen is the clock, but it is there.

In reply to No Time :

My ST has instant mpg .  It is really use less as it changes constantly depending on the throttle opening.   The 100 mpg reading on closed throttle is kina neat.

Leaving the PRI show our flights home to FL were canceled, so Tom, Katie and I rented a Rouge and drove home.  (Indy to Daytona)  

It was a perfectly acceptable appliance---- but I'm not farsighted, so I could see the speedo.   I'd never buy one, but for Mr. and Mrs. public who think of cars like toasters....... it was ok, comfortable even.   

In reply to Joe Gearin :

Yeah. It’s not horrible. Seats are comfy. Brakes are decent. Handles like it’s on a car chassis (I ASSume it is. Don’t care.) CVT sucks bag, but like you said, Mr. & Mrs. joe blow appliance likely wouldn’t care about that.

Actually, I’d rather be driving it than that piece of E36 M3 Cadillac “CUV” thing you had as a rental last time we hung out. At least the berkeleying seats don’t rumble to warn you any time there’s another car within 100 yards 

funny enough, i, too, currently have a rental Rogue. 

So I got to work early and spent 10 minutes fiddling with the dash menus.  I must say, navigating through their menus is horrible. You try to go back, and sometimes it takes you back one step and other times it puts you in a weird menu. There is no home menu.

But the long and short is that I could find no option to show current speed. Doesn't mean you're the dumb one, but I'm gonna vote for the Rogue.   Although that is mostly because I would, by deduction, also be included in the dumb category if you can.   

iceracer said:

In reply to No Time :

My ST has instant mpg .  It is really use less as it changes constantly depending on the throttle opening.   The 100 mpg reading on closed throttle is kina neat.

It's not useless if you are trying to save gas. It allows for instant feedback for how much gas your foot mashing is costing you. I can get that number way down into single digits on the Abarth by going WOT all the way to redline through the first couple of gears. If I take it easy, it doesn't fall much below twenty.

In reply to poopshovel again :

That Caddy was actually a press car---- and yes, I could live without the little gremlin fingers tickling my bung every time another vehicle got near.   I find most electronic nannies annoying, as I actually pay attention to my surroundings when I drive.   I know, all that paying attention cuts down on my Facebooking, Pandora searching,  and Fortnight gaming--- but somehow I'll survive!       

I rented a rogue last summer for a road trip with my wife. I hated the transmission so much I was ready to leave the damn car the side of the road 

That’s why I want to take a nice car like a BMW and gut it and start over with my own interior.

I’d start right here:

The heater controls are from my ‘88 Ford Ranger. Pretty sure there’s never been a more simple, better working system than this.

In reply to ebonyandivory :

More simple, probably not.  Better working, that's debatable.  I always thought the auto climate in my Jeep was fairly good, but needed a few improvements (like being smart enough not to blast you with cold air when the engine is cold so it could just be left on instead of having to shut the climate control off at shutdown).  But the one in the BMW is excellent.  Literally, just pick a temperature that you find comfortable most of the time, leave it in full auto and ignore it.  I don't think I've touched a button on it in over a week at this point.  It's set to 72* and just does whatever it needs to get the car comfortable inside and then keeps it there.  

In reply to rslifkin :

I wholeheartedly disagree but that’s ok, that’s what makes this world an interesting place to live

Interesting.  I thought it was pointless that my truck could display the speed in the center display.  I don't need a digital speedometer right next to the faster to interpret analog one.

APEowner said:

Interesting.  I thought it was pointless that my truck could display the speed in the center display.  I don't need a digital speedometer right next to the faster to interpret analog one.

I'm the same way.  I can't stand digital gauges for most things unless it's just a bar graph.  I don't need to know that whatever value I'm looking at is "37", because then I have to think about what 37 means.  Is it good?  Is it bad?  Is it what I want to see?  An analog gauge or a bar graph allows a quick glance and "yep, that's about right" without worrying about being precise.  

rslifkin said:

APEowner said:

Interesting.  I thought it was pointless that my truck could display the speed in the center display.  I don't need a digital speedometer right next to the faster to interpret analog one.

I'm the same way.  I can't stand digital gauges for most things unless it's just a bar graph.  I don't need to know that whatever value I'm looking at is "37", because then I have to think about what 37 means.  Is it good?  Is it bad?  Is it what I want to see?  An analog gauge or a bar graph allows a quick glance and "yep, that's about right" without worrying about being precise.  

I readily admit I’m a weirdo for saying so, but I like to set the cruise at exactly 7mph over the limit...unless the limit is 70, in which case I’ll do 76 or 78.

Back WhenI was In School They Taught us how to Determine Avereges,By Using Math. 60 Mississippi's In 1 Min. =  60 mph. so we don't need a Computer to Tell us.

   Don't Know How you would do this with New Math.

GTXVette said:

Back WhenI was In School They Taught us how to Determine Avereges,By Using Math. 60 Mississippi's In 1 Min. =  60 mph. so we don't need a Computer to Tell us.

   Don't Know How you would do this with New Math.

So if I walk out my door right now and start counting, I’ll be a mile away in a minute? berkeleying AWESOME! 

rslifkin said:

In reply to ebonyandivory :

More simple, probably not.  Better working, that's debatable.  I always thought the auto climate in my Jeep was fairly good, but needed a few improvements (like being smart enough not to blast you with cold air when the engine is cold so it could just be left on instead of having to shut the climate control off at shutdown).  But the one in the BMW is excellent.  Literally, just pick a temperature that you find comfortable most of the time, leave it in full auto and ignore it.  I don't think I've touched a button on it in over a week at this point.  It's set to 72* and just does whatever it needs to get the car comfortable inside and then keeps it there.  

I'm firmly in the camp of not being able to stand auto climate control. My temperature desires are far more complicated than just one number on a dial. I can't stand the car always changing fan speeds, ac/heat content, vent output, etc. My forester has, IMO, darn near the pinnacle of automotive climate control controls design; two knobs, a button to turn AC on/off, and a slider for recirc/outside air.