Why no Challenge Coverage On The GRM YouTube Channel?

Just wanted to know. Why no uploads of stuff over the course of the weekend?  

Yea I checked a few times and was a little sad I didn't see anything. 

Yeh, I would love to see some cool Challenge videos

I’m going to guess that GRM has a limited number of people, and getting editorial to feed the magazine for the next year and banking video for future release is more important than live updates. 

The official answer was they were more concerned with production quality than live streaming, so I would anticipate quality videos with less of the "heres Jg walking around trying to fill time" and "here's dead time while we push joe's van off the track....again" and more of the stuff you actually want to see.

Also, internet/cell service at the track is pretty spotty. 

So no content is better than something that is not perfect?  Have people been watching YouTube?

I am betting there was a large number out there that would have watched a camera stuck on a tripod left to run by the drag strip for ten minutes. 

Youtube is a form of advertising and I get that GRM probably wants reasonabley polished content but this is there big yearly event that generates buzz for at least 4-6 months. In a matter of days  the interest will be half of what it was over the weekend.
 

The only thing that I can think of is GRM actually wanted no content getting out. It is after all their event that is an editorial spectical and dumping it on YouTube would probably cut in to the future contents views.  
 

Just kind of a bummer. I was hoping JG was going to do a couple of his spots like last year. 

It depends on what you think the Challenge is. Is it a motorsports event that attracts interest in real-time from those who aren't there? Or is it a way to generate a year's worth of content in a single weekend?  Put another way, is the interest the competition or the cars?

If it's the former, then live updates are important.

If it's the latter, then it makes more sense to concentrate on documentation than live updates. Not to protect the results, but because it's not a good use of time and resources.

I know there are a lot of solid competitors who put a huge amount of work into the Challenge, but GRM's focus is very much on feeding the editorial machine and the Challenge is, at core, just a way to do that. It's not a high profile event outside a very small group but stories on weird cars built with a high level of ingenuity keep the magazine going all year.

I think it mostly comes down to not having enough people to do everything at once and still do a good job of anything.  I've been the one poking about youtube content in threads in the past, but I actually think the Challenge would be the hardest place to do a good job of it because it's already hard to make everything happen in the allotted time without taking people off that to do anything else. 

I kept checking for anything but found nothing.

At least it was free.

(after re-reading my "free" comment I wanted to clarify: I've learned a LOT and gotten a lot of help here all for free. Hard to complain much when you realize that.)

We were posting a lot on Facebook during the $2000 Challenge–go check out the content there.

Internet connections and a desire to produce more-polished content meant we weren't able to go live like we traditionally would. 

I've seen some of the very people posting in this thread complain when we produce sub-par content, or content that isn't explicitly aimed at their interests, which is why we've made the conscious choice to produce less video but do it better going forward.

1. Internet service was dogcrap this year. We were having trouble posting photos and short clips from our phones, let alone doing a stream. Had we committed to doing a stream, it would have been a disaster, so I'm glad we didn't.

2. Right now I've got about 400 individual video files that I need to review, transcode and log. Then I can begin the process of editing stuff together. I'm hoping to get a competitor feature out this week. Probably the Hong Caddy.

How many people attended that didn't have a car, or had a car consplode before the event? 
 

If it's a staffing issue, then why don't we hand a camera to one of the people that shows up without a car. Somebody that has been a loyal patron of the website and magazine for years, but has not had the opportunity to have a car for that particular year. You hand that guy a go pro or have him film on his iPhone potato and then he sends the footage to GRM for updates or just as a live stream of himself. In payment, he gets a free year subscription. 
 

most of the regulars around here keep me in stitches. I'd love to see someone like, ebonyandivory, or yupididit, host a live show of the event. 

I would fly down to host with yupididit. I think that would be really fun. If you don't mind a face made for radio being seen every now and then that would be fun. (And I am not talking about yupididit here). 

I think you made the right decision, I think releasing polished content over the next few days/weeks/months is better for everyone. The live event broadcast would be fun, but that video would get tossed aside and forgotten the next day. Clean nicely edit video and written content for magazine and website are what I want. Keep up the good work. 

In reply to Keith Tanner :

So what you are saying is that the first rule of fight club applies to the Challenge in the motor sports  world?  
 

I completely get that it is first and foremost a editorial  content generating event for GRM. I was just hoping that we that have to live vicariously through others participation would get at least a tease over the weekend.  
 

I have been looking at face book less and less for meaningful content of any kind.  The noise to worth while content ratio is so high I have all but given up on it. That and the amount of hate expressed over there. Just not a place I go as much as I use to. 

dean1484 said:

I would fly down to host with yupididit. I think that would be really fun. If you don't mind a face made for radio being seen every now and then that would be fun. (And I am not talking about yupididit here). 

 

Even if you two got together to be added in after the fact, like Wide World Of Sports commentator style, I'd watch that show weekly. 

Dean, respectfully, the track is also in the middle of nowhere and between verizon, att, and sprint our pit area group had phantom LTE bars and we got zero data working.  Texts were barely getting through, we couldn't even look up a sandwich menu.  They would have been trying to live stream over that same spotty connectivity 

In reply to dean1484 :

So you won't use Facebook because it's full of hate speech and stupid stuff, but YouTube is fine?

I honestly hardly ever run into anything that bothers me on Youtube UNLESS i read the comments. If i pretend they don't exist my bubble is quite zen.  

In reply to JG Pasterjak :

I have a Junxion JB-110B that I'd donate to the cause:

https://www.cnet.com/reviews/junxion-box-jb-110b-review/

Basically you could put a wireless card in it, add a high gain antennae to the card and have more reliable connectivity.

Seriously, its been sitting in the box for years now and I'd much rather it get used than sit and rot.

Vigo said:

I honestly hardly ever run into anything that bothers me on Youtube UNLESS i read the comments. If i pretend they don't exist my bubble is quite zen.  

FB is a lot more obnoxious about getting EVERYTHING in your face. YouTube is much easier to direct your browsing. You can actually search, for example.

Tom Suddard said:

In reply to dean1484 :

So you won't use Facebook because it's full of hate speech and stupid stuff, but YouTube is fine?

The way I view YouTube is such that it is not in my face nearly as much like it is on Facebook.  If you go looking for it on YouTube I am sure it is out there but you have to click play where as in Facebook everything is generally in a message format that is in your face on your time line.  For a while I was blocking the more offensive or hateful stuff on Facebook but I got tired of it so I just stopped going there.  Between politics, religion and race bashing that place has turned into the cesspool of hate of the human race.  For some reason my YouTube experience is much better.     

Vigo said:

I honestly hardly ever run into anything that bothers me on Youtube UNLESS i read the comments. If i pretend they don't exist my bubble is quite zen.  

I don't do comments either.  In fact I only watch YouTube on my PS4 on my TV so the viewing experience is very different than on a PC. There is zero comments seen. This is probably why I like YouTube so much more.

Tom Suddard said:

In reply to dean1484 :

So you won't use Facebook because it's full of hate speech and stupid stuff, but YouTube is fine?

Just out of curiosity- is it as easy to block ads on FB as it is on YT?  

I spend a lot of time updating the page, as the recommended videos are getting pretty bad.  But not so bad that I feel the need to join FB.