David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director, Grassroots Motorsports & Classic Motorsports
6/3/16 4:05 p.m.

Looks like some car companies aren't disclosing everything to their customers.

Link.

06HHR
06HHR HalfDork
6/3/16 4:16 p.m.

Frankly, how can you know? The list keeps growing, and it seems like the automakers don't even know whose airbags are in their cars. I've got a 2011 Kia Sorrento which isn't on the list (yet) and bought my daughter a 2007 Honda Fit last year. When I bought it the Fit wasn't listed for an airbag recall but now it is, I have yet to receive a notice and probably never will the way this is playing out.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson MegaDork
6/3/16 5:34 p.m.

Really? It's a low % chance. He'll yes I'd buy one. I'd expect the company to fix it asap, even if that's a year down the line, but I'd chance it. But then I'm reckless like that, I stay in the same state when there's a thunder storm. I cross the road too, relying only on the red light to protect me. I've even walked in the house carry scissors so obviously you shouldn't trust my judgment.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
6/3/16 5:39 p.m.

There is a whole thread about this already.

HappyAndy
HappyAndy PowerDork
6/3/16 6:01 p.m.

My understanding of the original takata recall is that problem came to fruition as the airbag inflator aged, and was worse in humid environments, because the propellant was absorbing moisture from the atmosphere which altered it's properties. In some of the discussions of the recall I've noticed mention of lack of desiccant in the propellant as a contributing factor to the failure.

With that in mind, and hopefully my understanding is correct, I wouldn't be to hesitant to buy a new car from a manufacturer that openly disclosed the issue, and would perform the recall repair within an acceptable time frame.

OldGray320i
OldGray320i HalfDork
6/3/16 6:47 p.m.

What is the real depth of the problem? I know it's 13 dead and some number injured, but what is it over the population of all Takata air bags deployed?

Is it statistically significant when compared to injury or death rates of other mfg's airbags?

With the scare factor, I might not since I tend to consider "if it happened to me, would the risk be acceptable?" - and sure death, yeah, maybe I'll pass on that one.

But put in the proper perspective, and knowing statistically I'd have a better chance of being hit by a bus, then yeah, I'd buy anyway and wait for the fix.

But there's zero excuse for the auto mfg's lack of disclosure.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy PowerDork
6/3/16 9:29 p.m.

If I ever bought a new car, the most important thing about the airbag would be whether it blocked my vision. Not even on my radar.

petegossett
petegossett UltimaDork
6/3/16 9:42 p.m.

Presuming someone did not want to risk death while waiting for the replacement airbags, would the general procedure to disable the steering wheel airbag be to disconnect the impact sensor at the front of the car? Battery disconnected first, obviously.

Junkyard_Dog
Junkyard_Dog SuperDork
6/3/16 10:22 p.m.

None of my current cars have any airbags.

Problem solved.

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