Taxes wrote:Not really ruling anything out but Im almost steering toward something non-V8 on this. I guess I just enjoy the weird.Volvo T-5 turbo 5 cyl.
Let's take this one step further and go with the godfather of 5 cylinder turbos.
The Audi 20v 5 cylinder turbo unit. Use Porsche 924 parts for running gear and trans.
It needs to sound like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynnbqGgZm0c
pres589 wrote: You just took some pictures of it, right? I mean, you didn't actually pay money for that, did you? Haha you had me going there, you kidder you, that was a good joke hee hee hee.
That's what my wife said when I recently dragged a beige RX-7 home. Hits close to home.
Tyler H wrote:pres589 wrote: You just took some pictures of it, right? I mean, you didn't actually pay money for that, did you? Haha you had me going there, you kidder you, that was a good joke hee hee hee.That's what my wife said when I recently dragged a beige RX-7 home. Hits close to home.
I think the only way I got away with this is that no matter how many times I tried to discuss it with my wife she thought I was joking. Im still not sure she believes me.
How about a marine diesel?
The Yanmar BY2 series is based on the BMW diesels so you can get dry bolt up manifolds and chuck the wet ones. Or sell them to someone with a BY.
Come standalone (just fuel line and battery connection needed, and with ECU) no smoke and a BIG flywheel so it will run smooth.
FlightService wrote: How about a marine diesel? The Yanmar BY2 series is based on the BMW diesels so you can get dry bolt up manifolds and chuck the wet ones. Or sell them to someone with a BY. Come standalone (just fuel line and battery connection needed, and with ECU) no smoke and a BIG flywheel so it will run smooth.
Where does one find these and what type of transmission will work (BMW Im guessing) Good info to add to the pile.
BMW straight 6, with a much much more retro looking valvecover stuck on it?
Do this http://www.thehistoryblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Bugatti-Royale-Coupe-Napoleon.jpg
skeze wrote: Do this http://www.thehistoryblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Bugatti-Royale-Coupe-Napoleon.jpg
Hotlinked for your pleasure. Yeah, that would be fun, and I considered something similar but I will probably try to preserve the stock body.
Slyp_Dawg wrote: BMW straight 6, with a much much more retro looking valvecover stuck on it?
the big M30 had an oldschool looking valvecover (perhaps not quite retro), but at least its metal and can be spiffied up to look good in a lot of different ways.
Dr. Hess wrote: Needs more 7MGE.
5MGE could be had with a carb-friendly vacuum advance distributor. Fab up a manifold for a pair or trio of Strombergs and call it done.
WilberM3 wrote:Big ego wrote: That car is begging for a 4200 vortec and a turbo.hell yes.
my thoughts from the beginning of this thread. 290hp lump with a ball of fun. IIRC it uses the standard SBC bolt pattern for the trans.
In reply to JThw8: Thanx I haven't quite gotten the grasp on hotlinking just yet. but glad you got the idea...you could put a cummins in it and that would be RADDDD
Something like that hudson engine would be awesome. It would be way more interesting with a modernized old engine than a engine anyone can just go buy at the junkyard. I think leaving the body fairly stock is a good thing, but as far as suspension and interior, no reason not to upgrade things. Rather than jaguar rear suspension, what about nascar/60-72 GM truck style trailing arms? It doesnt seem like it would be that hard to do, and that would be pretty awesome as well.
I think the AMC straight six is a natural choice, cost effective, as much power as you'll need and if pre-96 wiring would be greatly simplified as well. Also plenty of trans choices to boot.
amiller34 wrote: I think the AMC straight six is a natural choice....... Also plenty of trans choices to boot.
Plus, and I can't believe nobody brought it up, you could use a 4x4 Jeep as the donor. 4 wheel burnouts FTMFW!
Travis_K wrote: Something like that hudson engine would be awesome. It would be way more interesting with a modernized old engine than a engine anyone can just go buy at the junkyard. I think leaving the body fairly stock is a good thing, but as far as suspension and interior, no reason not to upgrade things. Rather than jaguar rear suspension, what about nascar/60-72 GM truck style trailing arms? It doesnt seem like it would be that hard to do, and that would be pretty awesome as well.
Suspension will definitely see an upgrade. I may pester Andy to let me come look at his work (Im a hands on learner) and work out a nice 4 link for the rear.
Front will probably get a mustang II subframe or similar as long as it will fit properly and be "hidden" mostly so it doesnt detract from the look.
I'm not looking for oodles of power, just a nice, reliable cruiser. Truth is the drivetrain choice will most likely be decided the way most of us decide things....whatever I find cheap at the time Im ready to buy :)
Why not just get it running, fix brakes, get a seat for it and drive it the way it is? Pretty cool the way it is, I think. By 'staying inside the box', you're thinking outside the box.
gjz30075 wrote: Why not just get it running, fix brakes, get a seat for it and drive it the way it is? Pretty cool the way it is, I think. By 'staying inside the box', you're thinking outside the box.
Exactly my thoughts too.
gjz30075 wrote: Why not just get it running, fix brakes, get a seat for it and drive it the way it is? Pretty cool the way it is, I think. By 'staying inside the box', you're thinking outside the box.
I'm not much of a believer of rust as a fashion accessory.
I've driven cars this old and there's nothing fun about it. (Recently sold a fully restored 1950 Studebaker Champion because it just wasn't fun)
It has been sitting outside with the head removed from the engine for many years essentially rendering it one large lump of iron oxide.
There are no floors, roof or interior to speak of.
And the biggest reason for me is I get much more enjoyment out of designing, fabricating, building than driving. This like so many other projects will just end up sold once its to the driving point.
This thing is begging for steam power! Squeeze a boiler/motor in behind the rear seats to power the rear wheels like a locomotive, then graft an I6 onto the Chrysler or Acura longitudinal FWD transaxle and you've got an AWD hybrid! 
Take that Prius owners! Yes, I'm kidding.
I agree with the recommendations for the GM Atlas 4200 I6 motors. Don't turbo it or anything, just keep it stock, keep the factory computer and transmission. It will probaby cost more than finding a Jeep/AMC I6, but it's all aluminum, has a lot more power and torque (stock, at least), and might be "cleaner" on the outside than the fuel injected Jeep I6, since the Atlas does not use EGR or air injection or anything like that to meet emissions (VVT on the exhaust). I guess that stuff would be easy to get rid of on the Jeep engine though, so that point may be mute. This engine has been swapped into a few vehicles, including a Supra, with good results.
Whatever you choose, I'm looking forward to watching this progress. Good luck!
Bob
In reply to JThw8:
Where are you located and I can get you your local distributor? You could just check www.yanmarmarine.com
After I left automotive, I went to work for the gear division's U.S. arm doing marine and quality.
I can get drawings, specs, tricks. Fun stuff.
JThw8 wrote: And the biggest reason for me is I get much more enjoyment out of designing, fabricating, building than driving. This like so many other projects will just end up sold once its to the driving point.
There's your key - anything in particular you want to get out of this one? Suspension design, upholstery, cheap hot rod to say you've done one? Steam-powered, submarine/aero-engined, AWD, 6cyl
Follow what you want to learn or experiment with. No doubt the end result will be interesting.
oldtin wrote:JThw8 wrote: And the biggest reason for me is I get much more enjoyment out of designing, fabricating, building than driving. This like so many other projects will just end up sold once its to the driving point.There's your key - anything in particular you want to get out of this one? Suspension design, upholstery, cheap hot rod to say you've done one? Steam-powered, submarine/aero-engined, AWD, 6cyl
Not really sure what I want to learn. More on suspension design for certian. Otherwise cars to me have always been a means of (somewhat demented) artistic expression. It will take me where it wants to go, with the help of some beer.
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/pts/2107950897.html
Or, even though it might get you into trouble, find a jag V-12 parts car and rob engine/suspension bits.
EDIT....then you could call it the JAGASH.
JFX001 wrote: EDIT....then you could call it the JAGASH.
I think I'm going to call it the gNash...in honor of the sound my wife's teeth make when the subject comes up.
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