BMW had the E30 M3, Mercedes-Benz had the 190 E 2.3-16.
This particular 190 E has been modified into the “ultimate canyon-carving, racetrack-shredding, daily driving machine.”
More specifically, the Mercedes-Benz has been upgraded with a Strömung exhaust, Koni shocks, H&R…
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calteg
SuperDork
1/23/24 4:09 p.m.
Given E30 M3 prices, that seems like a downright bargain
Where's LanEvo and yupididit?
GameboyRMH said:
Where's LanEvo and yupididit?
Raises hand.
I love mine. I've also got a couple of E30 M3's, one street car and one race-prepped. The 190E is more fun to drive and generally better handling. Very neutral and easy to steer on the throttle. The engine is also sweeter: more midrange torque; sounds great.
Yeah, seems like a bargain given other pricing. I just saw a mint 2002 for $36k, for example.
I'd have to ditch those wheels though. Something looks off about them, not sure if it's width or offset or diameter. Weird because I like the design.
Duke
MegaDork
1/24/24 8:34 a.m.
That's about the last Mercedes I was ever interested in.
walton
New Reader
1/24/24 8:44 a.m.
Clean, well taken care of, but not too perfect to beat on - my perfect spec.
In reply to CyberEric :
17- and 18-inch wheels are WAY too big for the car. For looks, 16" is perfect. For performance, 15" is better.
I race with 225/45/15 tires on 15x8" wheels and that's perfect for the platform.
DavyZ
New Reader
1/24/24 2:17 p.m.
In reply to LanEvo :
I also really like 15x8 wheels and a 225/45/15 tire--I just wished there were more manufacturers cranking out this size.
That car is cool. I'll be honest, driving the 4cyl 16v car after driving my m104 24v i6 ruined the Cosworth cars for me. This chassis doesn't need a whole lot of power but around 225hp really makes the car more enjoyable.
I was thinking about ordering a set of those wheels (Compomotive TH1781) in silver. They don't look that good in black.
So are you saying you have the 190e with an m104 I6?
One of these days, when I get all the other projects into running status, I'll go back and add a small turbo to my 8v 190. ~200hp in a manual 190 sounds like a LOT of fun.
CyberEric said:
So are you saying you have the 190e with an m104 I6?
Yes, m104.980. Its my favorite car!
I ran 17" Volks on my last 16v and they looked great. Looking for a decent 190e now since I have a rusted out 124 chassis to swap everything over.
In reply to chandler :
I need a 16v body kit if you see any intact
yupididit said:
In reply to chandler :
I need a 16v body kit if you see any intact
I'd just buy a knockoff at this point, last nice real one I saw went for 2800. I've owned two 2.3 16v and I bought both of them for less than that
In reply to chandler :
I'll need a really good knock-off because then I'm going evo1 from there. Might hit up hedgehog tuning.
I may be (probably am) out of touch with values on these things, but this seems like moonshot pricing for a car that is far from perfect. It's not an m3...so I guess if you've got m3 desires but bleed 3-pointed star, it seems like a bargain.
It seems like it's been owned/operated (but not maintained....parts-cannoned would be more descriptive) by someone who prioritizes form over function. And is looking to capitalize on a stupid Radwood/m3 market.
Too-narrow tires, no radio, f-boy shift knob, stripped back seat, idle issues, no a/c, carbon fiber stickers.
I'm clearly not the buyer for this car, but this seems like an $8-10k car, to me, on the best of days.