You can't make this stuff up:
http://updates.jalopnik.com/post/34669789863/more-than-a-dozen-fisker-karma-hybrids-caught-fire-and
You can't make this stuff up:
http://updates.jalopnik.com/post/34669789863/more-than-a-dozen-fisker-karma-hybrids-caught-fire-and
Regular water= slightly coductive
Dirty water= conductive
Seawater= very conductive
Dirty seawater= super conductive?
Me thinks Fiskar needs to work on insulation and isolation. Generally speaking salt/salt water and batteries are a dangerous combination.
Drat... was hoping for a video of it.
I could see these cars suddenly being equipped with yet another warning sticker. "Caution: Vehicle does not function as a submarine."
HappyAndy wrote: Regular water= slightly coductive Dirty water= conductive Seawater= very conductive Dirty seawater= super conductive? Me thinks Fiskar needs to work on insulation and isolation. Generally speaking salt/salt water and batteries are a dangerous combination.
That would require more of our tax dollars for research, development and testing...
I'm really starting to think "Karma" was a bad choice for a name....
Klayfish wrote: That would require more of our tax dollars for research, development and testing...
Who said Fiskar was using tax dollars? Just because seawater is involved, it doesn't mean that you have to flounder.
Besides, all they need to do is look at existing equipment that is designed not to combust in harsh environments. I suspect that Fiskars are designed and built by people with facy degrees, but not much real world experience with EVs.
And yes I know that Fiskar is not like other hybrids or EVs, but prius, insights, leaf, and millions of industrial vehicles are not burning down.
HappyAndy wrote:Klayfish wrote: That would require more of our tax dollars for research, development and testing...Who said Fiskar was using tax dollars? Just because seawater is involved, it doesn't mean that you have to flounder.
A couple of minutes on Google can change your mind about floundering there. :) Fisker is like any other car company since Lee Iaccoca's Chrysler, they've taken government money.
colaboy wrote: I'm really starting to think "Karma" was a bad choice for a name....
Especially with so many douchebags on staff (see: previous Karma fire incidents)
DoctorBlade wrote: A couple of minutes on Google can change your mind about floundering there. :) Fisker is like any other car company since Lee Iaccoca's Chrysler, they've taken government money.
And, in Delaware's case, taken our tax money as incentives, and then reneged on their deal to use GM's abandoned Boxwood assembly plant.
Useless without video.
HappyAndy wrote:Klayfish wrote: That would require more of our tax dollars for research, development and testing...Who said Fiskar was using tax dollars? Just because seawater is involved, it doesn't mean that you have to flounder.
It's better than carping... 
I feel really sorry for Fisker. The internet "experts" are making all sorts of crap up, and Fisker has no way of getting any real information about what's happened. Today's culture is not tolerant of things like "we can't get in there, did you not hear that there is a hurricane?" and prefers to substitute wild conjecture. It's a tough thing to manage.
Catching fire just adds to the mystique. It doesn't seem to have hurt Ferrari at all.
Or Lambo, or Lotus...
Keith Tanner wrote: I feel really sorry for Fisker. The internet "experts" are making all sorts of crap up, and Fisker has no way of getting any real information about what's happened. Today's culture is not tolerant of things like "we can't get in there, did you not hear that there is a hurricane?" and prefers to substitute wild conjecture. It's a tough thing to manage.
Not blaming Fisker for this particular one either. Designing an electric car to be able to be fully submerged in salt water and not end up totalled seems a bit much to ask.
shocked! I say I am shocked by this!
I want video. Assuming it is a simple as a shorted battery it would have been a spectacular show.
MadScientistMatt wrote:Keith Tanner wrote: I feel really sorry for Fisker. The internet "experts" are making all sorts of crap up, and Fisker has no way of getting any real information about what's happened. Today's culture is not tolerant of things like "we can't get in there, did you not hear that there is a hurricane?" and prefers to substitute wild conjecture. It's a tough thing to manage.Not blaming Fisker for this particular one either. Designing an electric car to be able to be fully submerged in salt water and not end up totalled seems a bit much to ask.
I wasn't suggesting that it should be able to survive a dunking in seawater, my second post was refering to the other fire incidents. Also I didn't know that Fiskar bailed on the former GM plant in Delaware. I
I don't know if it their fault or not. But I can empathize with the poor PR guys at Fisker right now!
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