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oldtin
oldtin PowerDork
5/27/16 8:07 p.m.

Looks like a P47 Thunderbolt went down in NY. Hate to see old warbirds go down. Although I'm pretty sure it will live again.

Toyman01
Toyman01 MegaDork
5/27/16 8:12 p.m.

Damn. That's too bad. Apparently the pilot didn't make it.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Mbixjnhpt-U

iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
5/28/16 7:35 a.m.

Is a P-47 considered a "small plane" ?

NickD
NickD Dork
5/28/16 7:54 a.m.

In reply to iceracer:

Well, it's not an Airbus A380.

The P47 Thunderbolt, the hot rod of fighter planes. Take a fighter and jam in the biggest, most powerful engine you possibly could and then watch what happens.

Knurled
Knurled MegaDork
5/28/16 8:16 a.m.

I somehow thought this was going to be about 'shine runners.

iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
5/28/16 10:36 a.m.

I am aware of what the P-47 is. One of the news sites said a small plane crashed.

NickD
NickD Dork
5/28/16 11:34 a.m.

In reply to iceracer:

I'm just saying that while a P47 was the biggest and heaviest WWII fighter, I would still classify it as a small plane.

captdownshift
captdownshift UberDork
5/28/16 3:44 p.m.

I'm glad it wasn't a P71

KyAllroad
KyAllroad UltraDork
5/28/16 3:50 p.m.
captdownshift wrote: I'm glad it wasn't a P71

Why would you care if a Crown Vic went for a swim?

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
5/28/16 3:55 p.m.

8 M2's, 4 on each wing. When that thing lit off, that must have been some show. Unless you were on the other end of it.

captdownshift
captdownshift UberDork
5/28/16 4:00 p.m.

In reply to KyAllroad:

I meant 51 haha autocorrect to p71 is a sign that I'm here too much

HappyAndy
HappyAndy PowerDork
5/28/16 4:22 p.m.
Dr. Hess wrote: 8 M2's, 4 on each wing. When that thing lit off, that must have been some show. Unless you were on the other end of it.

Such a good show in fact that the German luftwaffe usually chose not to engage them, and to wait out their short fuel range instead.

Think of P47s as Shelby 427 Cobras with the tiny gas tank that was wasn't big enough to keep the 260 c.i. sbf properly fed.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
5/28/16 4:50 p.m.

Biggest single engined figher of the war. 12,000lbs. Nothing could out dive it.

Sad to see one of the few left flying go down with its pilot.

oldtin
oldtin PowerDork
5/28/16 4:53 p.m.
captdownshift wrote: I'm glad it wasn't a P71

There's only 13 airworthy P47s left. I think there's quite a few more P51s still flying

WOW Really Paul?
WOW Really Paul? MegaDork
5/28/16 5:19 p.m.
oldtin wrote:
captdownshift wrote: I'm glad it wasn't a P71
There's only 13 airworthy P47s left. I think there's quite a few more P51s still flying

A lot more 51's are still flying......a p38 going down would have been really bad. Maybe one hand's worth are still air worthy.

Knurled
Knurled MegaDork
5/28/16 5:22 p.m.
oldtin wrote:
captdownshift wrote: I'm glad it wasn't a P71
There's only 13 airworthy P47s left. I think there's quite a few more P51s still flying

Most of the P51s still flying are mockerys of the airframe.

iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
5/28/16 5:33 p.m.

They pulled it out of the Hudson. Surprisingly intact.

Too bad the pilot didn't make it.

captdownshift
captdownshift UberDork
5/28/16 7:55 p.m.

In reply to oldtin:

Yeah but P51s have a tendency to go kamakazi on crowds. If Japan had access to P51s it could've changed the outcome of the war.

nutherjrfan
nutherjrfan HalfDork
5/29/16 6:02 a.m.
captdownshift wrote: In reply to oldtin: Yeah but P51s have a tendency to go kamakazi on crowds. If Japan had access to P51s it could've changed the outcome of the war.

Ooh I'm feeling a Mustang segue. Sorry to hear about the pilot.

NickD
NickD Dork
5/29/16 7:54 a.m.
WOW Really Paul? wrote:
oldtin wrote:
captdownshift wrote: I'm glad it wasn't a P71
There's only 13 airworthy P47s left. I think there's quite a few more P51s still flying
A lot more 51's are still flying......a p38 going down would have been really bad. Maybe one hand's worth are still air worthy.

There are only 7 airworthy P-38s: 23 Ski-Doo, Glacier Girl, Allied Fighters/Honey Bunny, Red Bull, Scat III, Tangerine and Thoughts Of Midnight. A few more under restoration to airworthiness, but like steam locomotives, airplane restorations tend to be a tumultuous on-again/off-again process.

A pity that there are so few P-38s, with them being one of the most successful fighters (Actually, some sources list them as the most successful fighter of WWII, over the P-51). I imagine that the complications resulting from twin engines has something to do with it.

Will
Will SuperDork
5/29/16 11:14 a.m.

In reply to NickD:

The number of surviving warbirds has much more to do with which models continued in service after the war than with mechanical complexity. P-51s stayed in service while P-38s and P-47s were melted for scrap. The AF didn't sell its last Mustangs until 1957.

oldtin
oldtin PowerDork
5/29/16 11:48 a.m.

P/F47s stayed in service for a while after the war and quite a few went to South American air services. One difference though, at one point civilians could buy a P51. The P47s were never offered to the public. So even though there were more P47s than P51s, fewer of them made it to museums or private hands

spitfirebill
spitfirebill UltimaDork
5/29/16 2:45 p.m.

I was thinking some of the P47s went to guard units.

RealMiniParker
RealMiniParker UberDork
5/29/16 2:55 p.m.
Knurled wrote:
oldtin wrote:
captdownshift wrote: I'm glad it wasn't a P71
There's only 13 airworthy P47s left. I think there's quite a few more P51s still flying
Most of the P51s still flying are mockerys of the airframe.

Like Grandpa's axe?

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
5/29/16 3:44 p.m.
Knurled wrote:
oldtin wrote:
captdownshift wrote: I'm glad it wasn't a P71
There's only 13 airworthy P47s left. I think there's quite a few more P51s still flying
Most of the P51s still flying are mockerys of the airframe.

If that's in reference to the Reno racers, no, there are far more stock airframe flying.

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