annother great Ford that we can't have

my parents borrowed a friends jeep grand cherokee diesel when they were in italy last year that i suppose has a M-B diesel in it, and they loved it. too bad its unlikely to come here

Strizzo wrote: my parents borrowed a friends jeep grand cherokee diesel when they were in italy last year that i suppose has a M-B diesel in it, and they loved it. too bad its unlikely to come here

I can't tell if people on this board check before they throw crap out here or not.

Jeep GC are avaailable with the diesel in the US.

So the price to import the engines from Britain is too high to be able to sell the cars at a reasonable price point and the costs of building a brand new plant in Mexico (which everyone has decried anyway) is too expensive and would take too long to build is all Ford's fault?

I won't buy this diesel or any other diesel until I can actually find diesel gas nearly everywhere. I have about a 20 mile drive to find diesel around here. I've had to buy a ton of it for a Cat I've been using and it's a pain. Plus all the big cheap gas stations don't carry diesel so you have to go to the expensive stations which makes it a $1 more a gallon.

The uncertainties of being able to find gas when I need it and the high costs of said gas simply don't make a diesel vehicle of any type attractive.

So when will they create a urine converter to create the urea needed to reduce the NOx in the MB diesel? All those Calvin stickers would be used for something good for a change!

Again unless the diesel gets 300% better mileage the added cost of ownership plus the higher fuel cost makes no sense to me.

stumpmj wrote:

Strizzo wrote: my parents borrowed a friends jeep grand cherokee diesel when they were in italy last year that i suppose has a M-B diesel in it, and they loved it. too bad its unlikely to come here

I can't tell if people on this board check before they throw crap out here or not. Jeep GC are avaailable with the diesel in the US.

thats odd, since its not listed in the powertrain options when you do the "build your jeep" thing, and is only listed if you click on "see all MPG ratings" the model pages also don't mention anything about diesel options either.

2008 GRAND CHEROKEE OVERLAND 4X2 P Pkg.$39,855 Destination Charge $730 Color $0 Dark Khaki/Light Graystone $0 Bright Silver Metallic Clear Coat $0 Power $1,010 3.0L V6 Turbo Diesel Engine $1,010 2 Additional Gallons of Diesel Fuel Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) Hydraulic Engine Cooling Engine Block Heater 22-Gallon Fuel Tank "3.0L Diesel" Badge Premium Insulation Group 800-Ampere Maintenance-Free Battery 180-Ampere Alternator 3.73 Axle Ratio Incl. 5-Speed Automatic Transmission $0 Dana 44/226MM Rear Axle Incl. GVW Rating 6,010 Pounds Incl. Features/Options $0 Leather Trim Seats with Edge Welting Incl. Lumbar Adjust for the Driver and Front Passenger Full Tank of Fuel $0 Monotone Paint Incl. Trailer Tow Group IV Incl. Class IV Receiver Hitch 7- and 4-Pin Wiring Harness Trailer Sway Damping Cargo Compartment Cover Incl. Power Sunroof Incl. Sun Visors with Illuminated Vanity Mirrors Incl. Air Conditioning w/Dual Zone Automatic Temp Control Incl. 115-Volt Auxiliary Power Outlet Incl. Auxiliary 12-Volt Rear Power Outlet Incl. Heated Front Seats Incl. Automatic On/Off Headlamps Incl. Fog Lamps Incl. High-Intensity Discharge Headlamps Incl. Security Alarm Incl. Adjustable Roof Rail Crossbars Incl. Boston Acoustics Premium Sound System Incl. MyGIG® MultimediaSystem with GPS Navigation Incl. Hard Disc Drive SIRIUS Traffic(TM) with 1-Year Service UConnect® Bluetooth Hands-Free Communication SIRIUS Satellite Radio Touch Screen Display Monitor GPS Navigation System Steering-Wheel Mounted Audio Controls Incl. Full-Size Matching Wheel Spare Tire Incl. 17" x 7.5" Aluminum Wheels $0 P245/65R17 OWL All Terrain Tires Remote Start System Incl. Universal Garage Door Opener Incl. MSRP As Configured: $41,595 Net Price: $41,595

http://www.jeep.com/en/2008/grand_cherokee/capability/engines/

i see, so its only available on the top of the line model

Searching Autotrader, though, I found that "used" 2007 models with less than a hundred miles on the clock could be had for less than $30k.

CrackMonkey wrote: M-B new diesels are the E36 M3. My uncle has the twin-turbo version of the E class. 6-speed manual transmission. Around the city (he's in Edinburgh, Scotland), you wouldn't know it was a diesel.

You can get a benz with a manual transmission!?!?!?! An e-class no less?

In the rest of the world, MB's are taxi cabs. Here they are a status symbol.

ignorant wrote: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/09/paris-preview-volvo-ultra-efficient-diesel-drive-trio/ 76 MPG Volvo's we won't get

Sign me up for a C30 with a diesel. Those wheels don't look half bad for being eco friendly'eqsue.

Fiesta rally car goodness: http://www.rallycodriver.co.uk/prepcompanies/technical/fiesta1600.jpg