Anybody else out there into the Mosin Nagant surplus rifles?

Anybody out there into the Mosin Nagant soviet surplus rifles?

Right now you can buy one with bayonet, cleaning kit, etc for $130, and 880 rounds of ammo for $150, so how can you go wrong?

I've got two- one is all original, and one has been sporterized with a shorter stock and barrel. I'm also about to install a bipod, tac rail, and scope on it.

I love them. It's a cheap piece og history that you can get some good use out of. Anybody else into these?

My fater-in-law has a couple. They also got their hands on some old Zulu rifles, they're a large .50+ caliber. I've never fired the Mosin Nagant, but I heard they're great fun. 7.62x59mm if I recall correctly. Big round. I have a H&K G3 which is the 7.62x51 (.308) and I looooove shooting it.

Conquest351 wrote: I've never fired the Mosin Nagant, but I heard they're great fun. 7.62x59mm if I recall correctly. Big round. I have a H&K G3 which is the 7.62x51 (.308) and I looooove shooting it.

MN's are 7.62X54R - Pretty good round, but most of the inexpensive ammo is garbage.

7.62x54R (rimmed). I hear they punch hard on both ends. And, yeah, at the price of the rifle and ammo, you can't hardly go wrong. There always seems to be one "cheap" surplus rifle, and after the Mausers went away (now >$300 for what use to sell for $70), the MN's are "it." Enjoy it while you can. I don't know what else is left.

I thought I wanted one till I tried my BIL's and got the bee-jayzus kicked out of me. Then I KNEW I wanted one.

Planning on sporterizing mine (not too awfully bubba'ed, don't care for shoddy gun-work) to the end of a cheap, powerful, reasonably accurate deer rifle. Unfortunately, its pretty far down my list of projects, so it may be a while getting modified.

slantvaliant wrote:

Conquest351 wrote: I've never fired the Mosin Nagant, but I heard they're great fun. 7.62x59mm if I recall correctly. Big round. I have a H&K G3 which is the 7.62x51 (.308) and I looooove shooting it.

MN's are 7.62X54R - Pretty good round, but most of the inexpensive ammo is garbage. </blockquo Yes, you won't win any sniper contests with it, but I just look at it as the most fun for the money. I can shoot a Mosin for about .18 cents a shot, where the cheapest you could shoot a 30.06 is over a dollar a shot, not to mention the fact that a Mosin is a good $500 cheaper to buy than the cheapest 30.06

Cheap ammo isn't exceedingly accurate, and the surplus stuff uses corrosive primer, so you HAVE to clean the bore well when you get finished or it WILL rust. But it is an awful lot of bang for your buck, so to speak.

I also have two, one sporterized and one all original wood furniture, they shoot a long way well, and many were made into sniper weapons back in the day.

I shoot a Remington 700 .308, so I like being accurate, but cheap guns are fun. Other cheap ones that are fun might be an old AK or I've been hearing good things (don't knock it, just what I'm hearing) about the high-point carbine. There are lots of options out there for cheap. I have a blast (pun intended) with my black powder .44 revolver.

Funny gun to load. After years of fighting it, I learned I'd been loading it backwards. It's not obvious, at least not to me. Though now that I load it correctly, it is easier.

slantvaliant wrote:

Conquest351 wrote: I've never fired the Mosin Nagant, but I heard they're great fun. 7.62x59mm if I recall correctly. Big round. I have a H&K G3 which is the 7.62x51 (.308) and I looooove shooting it.

MN's are 7.62X54R - Pretty good round, but most of the inexpensive ammo is garbage.

Yeah, 7.62x54... That's what I meant. LOL

Never got around to buying a Nagant.

Every time the wife approves money to spend on a firearm (we agreed to one a year) I always feel I HAVE to spend ALL of it or I'm missing out on something. I DID pick up a Mauser K98 a few years back and it turned out to be an outstanding deer rifle. (chambered in 8X57) This March I'm going to a gun show in San Antonio, maybe I'll give the ol' MN another look.

Oh, the Hungarians call the Nagant "The Nut Beater" because it's "so basic".

anyhoo

Yes, you won't win any sniper contests with it...

I beg to differ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_jw3_aoezY

If I had to describe a Mosin-Nagant in one word, it would be "agricultural". A lot of the cheapies out there now have been beat on pretty hard, but if there's one thing the Russians know how to do it's store military hardware for the long-term, so they aren't often rusted.

There are a lot of variants. The M91/30 and M44 are the most common, and fun rifles; the M44 kicks like a mule. Personally, of the Russian variants I prefer the long barrel of the original M91 over the others. But the Finnish rebuilds (all the receivers were originally Russian (or contracted by the Russians); the Finns replaced everything else) are very often way better than anything the Russians turned out. All of mine are very good shooters, even with surplus.

I have one, haven't had much chance to use it. Just done a few bits of target shooting. Been hoping to take it on a hog hunt sometime this year.

Here's one of mine in the capable um err... hands of my friend

A 91/30 has been on my to-do list for a while. My last trek to the best of the local gun shops found a crate of Nagants in cosmoline, all with great finish and full accessories, for $99. I was broke, and am still pissed.

7N1 Russian Dragunov sniper ammo works in this gun and it isn't accurate to quite a distance as long as the gun is beat on so bad the barrel has a tweak in it. Either try and find a ex-sniper (look inside the receiver for the scope mount holes) in the bargain bin or spend a little more on a refitted ex sniper model. Supposedly the Soviets made millions of them from the late thirties to early 50s until the AK came about so surplus supplies shouldn't run out anytime soon.

This is on my short list. Even at the higher price I found locally($160), it is still cheaper than anything else on my radar(Henry .22 lever, minimalist AR, mild "tactical" 12ga, hi point carbine)

In reply to aussiesmg:

So... whats in that soda bottle?

Get your C&R, never pay more than like $100 for a Moist Nugget again.

I've got an M44 out of a crate, covered in cosmoline, for 99 bucks when I lived in Florida. Took a long time to get all the goop out of the stock even after heating it and shooting it a bunch of times.

Fun gun to shoot and the carbine kicks like a mule.

Also as for accuracy you might want to read this:

http://mosinnagant.net/finland/simohayha.asp

(yes that number is confirmed at 505)

With a decent bore and a good crown, even surplus ammo should be good for minute-of-torso accuracy out to several hundred meters. Shimming the receiver in the stock helps, as does a little gentle trigger work. The sights kind of let it down beyond that. The Finns have better sights as well, BTW.

I just ordered 1760 rounds in bulk, can't wait 'till it gets here.

I wound up with both the 91/30 and 44 as they were good deals that I couldn't resist each time. ($125 and $80) I reprofiled and refinished the M44's stock because it didn't fit my small american hands and always seemed to leak cosmoline.

Wait for a decent price and buy one, there will always be a good time to shoot it. The Mosin always seems to be the go to when conditions are too crappy for the nice guns, or you just want to make big holes in something. Fire will always shoot out the barrel and it will never stop being fun. You will also find yourself watching Enemy at the Gates much more often.