KyAllroad wrote:
And for the record, given a two door car, if the passengers can reach over the seat to the rear cargo area, it's a hatchback. (Fastback is simply a marketing name for sleeker models but for definition purposes, functionally identical).
A coupe is a two door where passengers must exit the car in order to access the "trunk" (fold down seats don't count).
Can we all go back to our regularly scheduled discussions of dream cars and what should I buy threads 
Where are you finding this fact?
In reply to dculberson:
You're a little late with that one...
nicksta43 wrote:
KyAllroad wrote:
And for the record, given a two door car, if the passengers can reach over the seat to the rear cargo area, it's a hatchback. (Fastback is simply a marketing name for sleeker models but for definition purposes, functionally identical).
A coupe is a two door where passengers must exit the car in order to access the "trunk" (fold down seats don't count).
Can we all go back to our regularly scheduled discussions of dream cars and what should I buy threads
Where are you finding this fact?
He's making it up, just like you.
In reply to dculberson:
That has already been posted and proves nothing about the argument.
I'm fine with hatchback coupe. But that is not the same thing as a hatchback. The two body styles are very different. Just look at the pictures again.
wbjones
UltimaDork
6/24/14 8:58 a.m.
nicksta43 wrote:
A civic with a V8 In the back? It's still a hatchback.
Someone point me in the direction of any definition of coupe that says it has to have a trunk. The only time I've heard that is a couple people here, I can't find any evidence of it being so.
I thought hatchbacks, by definition, lifted UP .. .not down
In reply to wbjones:
Hell the thing could be welded up solid for all I care and it would still be more of a hatchback than an Integra or 240sx.
wbjones
UltimaDork
6/24/14 9:04 a.m.
well … I just think you're wrong … so there
nicksta43 wrote:
I'm fine with hatchback coupe. But that is not the same thing as a hatchback. The two body styles are very different. Just look at the pictures again.
According to SAE, a source you brought into this debate, they are in fact the same, because they are both hatchbacks.
I guess if you look at these two and see the exact same type of car then I can't really do anything for you. It just boggles my mind that's all.
nicksta43 wrote:
I guess if you look at these two and see the exact same type of car then I can't really do anything for you. It just boggles my mind that's all.
They are both hatchbacks. Where you are going wrong in my opinion is thinking that the word hatchback or coupe has to define the entire design of the profile of vehicle, but it doesn't. The definition of a hatchback is that the car has a hatch on the back. A hatch is defined to include the rear window in a door that lifts up from the car. Both of these cars do that. No, they don't look the same, but it has nothing to do with them both being hatchbacks. And you have still not offered up any kind of official definition that proves otherwise.
Duke
UltimaDork
6/24/14 9:14 a.m.
Wow. You're BOTH morons for continuing to argue this point for almost 24 hours with no detectable trace of irony. 
In reply to Duke:
I'm having a good time debating this, and if I was one to call people names I'd say you are the moron for coming in a thread that has a title warning you that there's an argument inside and calling us names. But I won't do that because calling people names is childish. But I will say this - Do that to my face and find out what happens.
There has to be some kind of difference. If I'm searching for a hot hatch, I'm picturing something that looks like the red one. If someone post a picture of the silver one and says "here you go" my response will be that's not even close to the type of car I'm looking for. To call them both the same thing is wrong.
Duke wrote:
Wow. You're BOTH morons for continuing to argue this point for almost 24 hours with no detectable trace of irony.
Way to come into an argument thread and complain about the argument
Seriously, It's in the title.
In reply to nicksta43:
Because you are more of an authority than the SAE or Wickipedia? Listen, I'm not saying I think they are the same either, but those are the definitions I can find.
If you asked me, the Civic is a hatch, the Integra is a liftback, and a two door car with a fixed rear window is a coupe, but that's just me. One name for one type of vehicle. It works for me.
Duke
UltimaDork
6/24/14 9:20 a.m.
bravenrace wrote:
In reply to Duke:
I'm having a good time debating this, and you are the moron for calling us names. Do that to my face and find out what happens.
Wow. Please reread and note the smiley face.
In reply to Duke:
Yeah, that's not a smiley face. Just go back to where you came from and leave us alone, k?
In reply to bravenrace:
No I was just looking for the actual definitions so that I knew. I wasn't saying that it was right or that I know for sure that it's right.
The definition of coupe does not exclude hatchback and the definition of hatchback does not exclude coupe.
But there is a clear difference in the type of car based on the many example I've posted.
Wally
MegaDork
6/24/14 9:28 a.m.
wbjones wrote:
nicksta43 wrote:
A civic with a V8 In the back? It's still a hatchback.
Someone point me in the direction of any definition of coupe that says it has to have a trunk. The only time I've heard that is a couple people here, I can't find any evidence of it being so.
I thought hatchbacks, by definition, lifted UP .. .not down
Right that has a tailgate so it's either a full size wagon or a truck.
You're looking for meaning in a meaningless world. Just a small town boy, living in a lonely world.
Please explain:
4 doors, rear window comes up when back is opened. Wagon? Sedan? Hatch? Coupe?
Another example, next generation.
Also: Did i really just see the first "Fight me in real life, bro" on GRM?
Wow.
I thought we were all adults here.
