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hobiercr
hobiercr UberDork
3/19/24 1:12 p.m.

Hey, my Mom has the same global map shower curtain in her guest bathroom! Always nice to educate oneself while enjoying some quiet time. We're in the middle of a major house reno project currently so we've been living with Mom since November 6th. I've really been boning up on my world capitals.

Are you doing the work on the reno or working with a builder? 

For the hall closet, could you utilize it for laundry? Build in sliders for baskets to easily separate into? 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
3/19/24 1:31 p.m.
914Driver said:

Excellent use of the unused space at the bottom of the roof pitch!  Also a good spot for a sky light.

Thank you - we had a line of 3 dressers across here before.  We're actually up a little on drawer volume than we had, but it is lower and the drawers are not as tall.  However, they are much deeper and on full slideouts, which means you can see more of your clothes.  Also, the dresser tops were nice for miscellaneous stuff like jewelry boxes, etc, though of course they tended to collect junk too... which doesn't necessarily go away.

hobiercr said:

Hey, my Mom has the same global map shower curtain in her guest bathroom! Always nice to educate oneself while enjoying some quiet time. We're in the middle of a major house reno project currently so we've been living with Mom since November 6th. I've really been boning up on my world capitals.

Are you doing the work on the reno or working with a builder? 

For the hall closet, could you utilize it for laundry? Build in sliders for baskets to easily separate into? 

 That shower curtain is a tradition for us, dating back to our first apartment together in 1986 or so.  This is the 6th or 7th version.  We will actually miss it quite a bit.  We're looking for world map art to replace it, but there's nowhere to hang a print where you can study it during your down time.

We hired a general contractor.  They are taking long enough as it is - if I was doing it, we'd never get done.

We could put the hamper in that closet.  It would mean you'd have to go outside the bedroom to drop off your dirty clothes, but with just the two of us, that's less of a deal than it might have been 10 years ago.

 

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle UberDork
3/19/24 4:26 p.m.

In reply to Duke :

Thanks for posting the light cove photos. Looks great!

Duke
Duke MegaDork
4/8/24 10:25 a.m.

Update time.  Status 80% complete.  Upstairs, tub is set, casework 100% installed, tile 85% complete.  After tile gets finished up, we need to set the fixtures and trims, paint, and have the glass enclosure (currently in fabrication) installed.

Unfortunately we're slightly stalled at the moment, because of communication issues between our GC and his main guy.  It's complicated and it was avoidable, but it will get resolved and we will get the job finished.  It just means we're stuck with some down time while the main guy is elsewhere.

 

Because of the absence of main guy, I've lost a bit of the control that I wanted, so the tile joints and fixture locations are not as carefully resolved as they should be.  For instance, the shower controls are not lined up exactly on a tile joint like they should be, the exhaust fan and shower light aren't exactly on center, etc.  That vertical tile joint isn't exactly centered between the 2 medicine cabinets / mirrors.  None of it will be a functional issue, it's just not quite as anal retentively detailed as I would have preferred.

 

AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter)
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4/8/24 11:57 a.m.

Looks great! I'd been hoping to see some updates since you had commented on my thread about your upcoming/in progress renovations. 

What are those shower valves you are using? 

Flynlow
Flynlow Dork
4/8/24 12:30 p.m.

Completely missed this the first time around, it looks awesome!  I only had my DE house in a finished state for ~6 months before I sold it, because I tried to do all the renovations myself and ended up taking 3 years, instead of the 1 I budgeted (don't recommend it), but for those 6 months I smiled everyday.  The bathroom color, tile, doors, cabinets, etc. were exactly the way I wanted them, in the colors and styles that I picked, the kitchen floor tile was the same, the hardwood was the same.  It brought me a lot of joy, and I've never had that before or since.  It was always the "not how I'd have done it, but good enough while I'm busy working" that you alluded to in your early posts about the vanity and such.

I hope you have that same feeling of satisfaction once the renovations are done, and you get to enjoy them for years to come. 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
4/8/24 12:34 p.m.

In reply to AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) :

They are a Kohler Anthem modular system:

Sorry, a little hard to see.  I will try to get a better picture of the installed version.

The big knob is the master temperature control, which stays where you set it.  The smaller buttons next to it control flow to each outlet:  overhead, handheld, tub spout, wall sprays, etc.  Those pop in and out like a power button - in for off, out for on.  When they are out, you can rotate each one to make some adjustment to water volume, which stays set when you turn it off.  You can have any combination on at the same time.  Downstairs only has 2 controls, while upstairs will have 3 because tub and shower.  They can be had with at least 4 if not more valves.

 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
4/8/24 12:40 p.m.

In reply to Flynlow :

Thank you!  Yes, we're very pleased so far.  It's been nice to get exactly what we wanted, though I probably should have bought the light fixtures and fans myself and given them to the electrician to install.  The cove and closet lighting are exactly what I was looking for, but the color rendition on the downlights is not quite as good as I hoped.  It's a little bit of a crap shoot with LEDs anyway.

 

AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter)
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4/8/24 12:45 p.m.

In reply to Duke :

Fancy!

Duke
Duke MegaDork
4/8/24 12:49 p.m.
AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to Duke :

Fancy!

Yeah, at first the plumber was like, "What the hell is this?"  But now he's recommending them to other homeowners.

 

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle UberDork
4/8/24 6:52 p.m.

It's fun when you meet a craftsman who "gets" anal retentive architect things- like "lining things up". Most are happy to do it if we can identify what is important.

Concisely identifying and showing them with a drawing is an art. 

Whenever I have hired somebody to do tile I will literally sketch right on the wall, or tape 8.5x11 sketches like this right on the door. 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
4/9/24 10:15 a.m.

In reply to OHSCrifle :

I agree, and I do my best.  The problem is that with the main guy elsewhere, I have little to no language in common with the guys actually doing the work.  Plus, they have a tendency to work from 10:00a-7:00p, and I can't really stay home that late enough mornings to go over stuff with them.

It's not that they're doing bad work; it's just lacking some of the nuance I was able to get across to the head carpenter / tile guy.

 

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle UberDork
4/9/24 9:38 p.m.

In reply to Duke :

That sounds challenging for sure. I'm fortunate to spend a lot of half days on job sites so WFH is frequent. 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
4/25/24 1:23 p.m.

And another big update - we just wrote the last check this morning!

99.99% complete.  We have a dripping faucet that needs some attention, and some of the casework needs adjustment.  We should be able to occupy the upstairs bathroom over the weekend.  It will be nice not to go downstairs for a shower every morning.

We're eager to try the first whirlpool bath.  Never had one before except in hotels.

 

gixxeropa
gixxeropa HalfDork
4/25/24 1:59 p.m.

In reply to Duke :

Nice! a big whirlpool tub is on my list, I've never had a tub big enough for me to actually fit in

AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter)
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4/25/24 2:06 p.m.

What's the white line coming off of the flexible shower head?

Duke
Duke MegaDork
4/25/24 2:24 p.m.
gixxeropa said:

In reply to Duke :

Nice! a big whirlpool tub is on my list, I've never had a tub big enough for me to actually fit in

Yeah, this is replacing a 28" x 60" cheapo that was just large enough to get my butt and feet wet.  This is 36" x 66" and a lot deeper.  It will be less convenient to step into - we'll have to see how that goes.

AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) said:

What's the white line coming off of the flexible shower head?

It's a Shower Floss, which is like a water pick except it just taps off of the shower head instead of being a separate unit that sits on your counter.  Cheap and very effective.  I need to mount the little rack that holds the interchangeable heads so I can hang it up on the wall.

 

AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter)
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4/25/24 3:23 p.m.
Duke said:
AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) said:

What's the white line coming off of the flexible shower head?

It's a Shower Floss, which is like a water pick except it just taps off of the shower head instead of being a separate unit that sits on your counter.  Cheap and very effective.  I need to mount the little rack that holds the interchangeable heads so I can hang it up on the wall.

Oh that's neat... I might have to snag one. 

maschinenbau
maschinenbau PowerDork
4/25/24 3:34 p.m.

Dang that turned out nice! I almost bought the same Kohler Purist slider handheld and showerhead. Yes I've been researching shower trim so much that I can recognize makes and models from pictures... Love the full-width niche shelf. I better not show these pictures to my wife.

Duke
Duke MegaDork
5/2/24 5:30 p.m.

If anyone is interested, I thought I would post some of the design drawings and imagery from the project, now that it is done.

We use Revit, which is a Building Information Modeling (BIM) program that originated in the late '90s from a company called Charles River Software.  Autodesk (makers of AutoCAD, the 900-lb gorilla of drafting programs) bought it in the early 2000s.

One joy of BIM, and Revit in particular, is that it is an integrated environment.  Unlike most 3D modeling (and really unlike  old 2D electronic drafting), each component in the model is "smart".   Walls know they are walls, doors know they are doors, etc.  You create types of object based on their real construction, which not only makes them appear graphically correct, but that information can be extracted and summarized for use and reporting.  And changes made to a given type propogate to every instance throughout the project.

Another, more interesting joy is that instead of drafting flat, 2D drawings that you need to coordinate manually, you model the project in virtual space.  That means any view you want is just a matter of placing the view marker and adjusting the parameters.  So you can use perspectives and walkthroughs during design, and the very same model gets sliced up to generate the construction drawings and details.

It's all integrated. There's no disconnect between design and documentation, no chasing things througouht the drawing package.  Change something in the model, and that thing is automatically changed in every view where it appears in the entire drawing package.

Here are the drawing sheets I made for the project:

 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
5/2/24 5:33 p.m.

Those drawings were generated from this model.  You can slice plans and sections anywhere you want, in 2D mode or 3D mode.  I don't have my whole house modeled yet, just the relevant parts.

Duke
Duke MegaDork
5/2/24 5:37 p.m.

And the same model is be used for renderings.  Here are some selected shots, but this can be exported as a standalone .exe file you can share so users can walk through.

Anyway, I thought this might interest some folks.  Thanks for looking.

 

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle UberDork
5/2/24 6:01 p.m.

In reply to Duke :

Nicely done. I like the new vs. existing line weights. And obviously the 3D renders with materials are sweet. 

Are you using phases to control existing vs demo vs new graphic line styles in the plan views?

Duke
Duke MegaDork
5/2/24 8:10 p.m.

In reply to OHSCrifle :

Thank you! Yes, I use phasing a lot, combined with view templates, to control various views. Of course in a project of larger scope it is more obvious what is new construction and what is existing.

If you want, that can be carried through to the 3D views, with existing construction set to be grayed out, or semitransparent, or whatever you need to view the work.

 

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