Boom stick questions. Point me in the right direction.

Antihero said:

The second thing I gotta wonder is......are revolvers going out of fashion? Will I be able to pick up old smiths for pennies soon? Please say thats true.

 

As a collector of Smith revolvers, my advice is not to hold your breath...  While the market in general has softened a bit over the last year, older (pre-1970) Smiths have continued to appreciate.  I'm sure the time will come, but like musclecars and hot rods, there will always be someone interested.

Gratuitous pic of 'old Smiths'... 

In reply to Rodan :

Nice!

I regret not buying up every old model 10 for $100-ish and a sweet 38-44 for 350 not so long ago.

But at the time I liked rugers and I wanted horsepower 

In reply to Antihero :

Your first problem is your source is Reddit. Now I want to go read that thread. Sounds like it could be entertaining. 
 

I can not speak about revolvers. I have never been good with them. 

dean1484 said:

In reply to Antihero :

Your first problem is your source is Reddit. Now I want to go read that thread. Sounds like it could be entertaining. 
 

I can not speak about revolvers. I have never been good with them. 

Agreed on the source, and I can't find it again. It was a suggested group post and I don't know which one sadly.

Got out with a buddy and our 308s today. I'm still working up a load with these 150gr Sierra game kings. I've got as good as it's getting with charge, now I need to play with length. It's holding about 2moa which isnt good enough. The hornady fmjbt stuff flies better and is .015 shorter COAL so maybe I try to match that...

Anyway. Had fun with a steel gopher, some apples at 150y, and grandpas rifle offhand. Then we stretched out to 725y and had some fun. There was a guy shooting 7mm prc I think and was basically matching my shots. 
 

Then my rifle finally got too fouled to run properly. Havent cleaned it at all in probably 500 rounds. Maybe more. 

Anyone play around with Tokarevs? 

Got a Yugo M57 that the trigger isn't always actually triggering on the first press, kinda thinking it has something to do with the terrible import safety 

Finished the rifle I've been putting together for my wife.   She wanted something with more reach than the CZ457 in .22LR she's been shooting, so I decided to build her a .223.  Rem 700 SPS, KRG Bravo stock, Triggertech trigger, Athlon Ares ETR 4.5-30x56.   Her CZ has a Bravo stock, so this pretty much duplicates the ergonomics.  She likes color on her guns, so I did a custom sponge paint camo for her.  

It shot sub-MOA with some cheap PMC X-Tac 55gr when I test fired it in the factory stock, so I'm hoping it will be a good shooter once we figure out a load for it.

Got the itch to go shopping.  All my needs are met, so this would be pretty much a toy.  Neighbor just got a .22 pistol.  Do I want a Walther PPK/S in .22LR?  Or do the smart thing and get the Ruger Mk. 4?  Go crazy and get the H&K MP5 in .22LR?

In reply to 1988RedT2 :

Take a look at the Taurus tx22 line. Surprisingly good for not a lot of $$$. 

In reply to barefootcyborg5000 :

Do they make a target model?  I'm kinda looking for something with a cool factor, and I'm not sure the TX-22 has it.  Nothing against Taurus, they make a fine product that is a great value.

In reply to 1988RedT2 :

Do you want a serious target gun, or just a range toy?

The Ruger Mk4 is a pretty good value, and has an excellent aftermarket... you could go either way with one.

For 'cool' factor, I like my 1911 .22 Kimber conversion on a Tisas frame.

You can buy the Kimber top half as a conversion and put it on just about any 1911 frame, or buy a Kimber Rimfire Target as a complete gun.  This is very different from the cheapo $300 1911 .22s by Colt/Walther or Sig... much better quality and accuracy.

A PPK/s may be cool, but they're not that great to shoot, and probably won't be very accurate.

In reply to Rodan :

More a serious target gun than a toy.  So, I've pretty much already eliminated the MP5.  Probably end up with the Ruger.

In reply to Rodan :

I have a .22 upper for mine. IT's a little finicky about ammo but is great for training the wife to clear the gun. 

In reply to 1988RedT2 :

Ruger is probably a good bet.  Great aftermarket.

If you want to get more serious, an older S&W M41 or High Standard can be very accurate, but can also be finicky.  And High Standards are getting a little iffy for parts (they've been out of production for a long time).

If you want to get really serious, there's loads of used Walther and Hammerli olympic pistols out there, but again parts may be an issue, especially for Hammerli.   

In reply to bobzilla :

1911?  Which conversion?

I've found the Kimbers to be really reliable.  I've heard the older Advantage arms was good as well, but never tried one, nor have I shot an original Ace.  I also have a TacSol conversion, and it's way more finicky than the Kimber, and mags are impossible to get.  It will run with the Kimber mags, but not 100%.

Cool 22?

What you need is a Whitney Wolverine!

In reply to Antihero :

Those are cool...  There's 3 on GB right now... this blue one is currently at $1125 with 10 days left on the auction:  https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1073867178

For more cost effective option, I admit I don't own a Wolverine even though I want one because a grand on a 22lr is a bit much( although they made a poly version somewhat recently that should be much cheaper) I've thought about picking up one of these just because they are pretty crazy IMO. SA revolvers are great for accuracy usually too

In reply to Antihero :

Years ago, I had one of those in .22LR with the 1" (IIRC?) barrel.  I was lucky to hit a full size torso target at 3 yards with it... LOL  As a curiosity, they are kind of cool but they're downright terrible to actually shoot.

And .22mag in anything shorter than a 5-6" barrel is just a flash/bang flamethrower.  All the ammo on the market is designed for rifles, so the bullet is out of the barrel before 1/2 the powder can burn...

Rodan said:

In reply to Antihero :

Years ago, I had one of those in .22LR with the 1" (IIRC?) barrel.  I was lucky to hit a full size torso target at 3 yards with it... LOL  As a curiosity, they are kind of cool but they're downright terrible to actually shoot.

And .22mag in anything shorter than a 5-6" barrel is just a flash/bang flamethrower.  All the ammo on the market is designed for rifles, so the bullet is out of the barrel before 1/2 the powder can burn...

I don't disagree, they actually make a 6 inch version of the Earl too and 22lr versions of both.

It's just weird enough that I might get one some day

If I were looking for a fun, and different from normal target rimfire gun, would give the new Hammerli Arms Force B1 rifle a look over... uses Ruger 10/22 magazine system & trigger compatible setup. Interesting adjustable stock in different woods or polymer,straight pull side-lever biathalon style action, and very interesting quick change barrel system for different lengths and calibers.

Rodan said:

In reply to bobzilla :

1911?  Which conversion?

I've found the Kimbers to be really reliable.  I've heard the older Advantage arms was good as well, but never tried one, nor have I shot an original Ace.  I also have a TacSol conversion, and it's way more finicky than the Kimber, and mags are impossible to get.  It will run with the Kimber mags, but not 100%.

Advantage arms 

Vracer111 said:

If I were looking for a fun, and different from normal target rimfire gun, would give the new Hammerli Arms Force B1 rifle a look over... uses Ruger 10/22 magazine system & trigger compatible setup. Interesting adjustable stock in different woods or polymer,straight pull side-lever biathalon style action, and very interesting quick change barrel system for different lengths and calibers.

 

 

 

I was really interested in one of these until I read some of the reviews and end-user reports on various forums.  As a 'target' rifle, the 'quick change' barrel system seems to really be holding it back, with 1.5-2moa accuracy being reported as typical.  It appears to be a Umarex quality gun wearing the Hammerli name, which is unfortunate.  I would much rather have seen a higher quality, more accurate rifle come in a slightly higher price point (but cheaper than the Volquartsen Summit, which is overpriced, IMHO).

As a 10/22 alternative, especially for suppressed use, it's probably just fine if a bit expensive.  

Finally jumped on a deal for a 16" barrel for the purple AR. Carbine gas system just so I can reuse all my existing parts and keep the system covered by the 9.2" guard. Bonus parts should include a proper stock and more fun while shooting. And theoretically I can sell my muzzle device, barrel, brace, and buffer tube and mostly zero the conversion cost. 
At the very least, it should be easier to sell if I still don't like it. 
 

pic from before i switched uppers. Aero w/o FA. So sleek and sexy. 

I'm wondering if the industry is heading for a Trump Slump, given the election results.  What good deals might appear?