Boston Marathon Explosions

aircooled wrote: ... the media reported at one point the suspect was "dark skinned" with apparently no justification.

John King reported that on CNN. "The Media" did not. In fact, the more "mainstream" the media, the more likely they were to get it right. CBS reported a white guy in a white ball cap worn backwards in a gray hoodie. Um, that was pretty spot on. But all anyone will remember will be "the media" said a "dark skinned" guy. Thanks CNN. We appreciate it.

Curmudgeon wrote: About the kid's daddy's statement: so it's a police department inside job? And there will be hell on earth if the second son is killed? But it's okay for them to indiscriminately kill an 8 year old boy? What a jerkoff.

It seems it was OK for the police to kill the 26 YO, but hands off the 19 YO.

I'm not going to give the dad a hard time. He probably honestly doesn't believe they did it. If I got a call that said my son did something like that I wouldn't believe it either. He's in shock. Can't imagine how much it sucks to be him.

fast_eddie_72 wrote: I'm not going to give the dad a hard time. He probably honestly doesn't believe they did it. If I got a call that said my son did something like that I wouldn't believe it either. He's in shock. Can't imagine how much it sucks to be him.

Truth. Can you imagine if it were your kids. He is probably full of all kinds of emotions right now.

Grizz wrote:

David S. Wallens wrote:

cwh wrote: Also interesting is that with the full weight and power of the most sophisticated law enforcement agencies in the world working this case, the morons tip off the cops by robbing a 7-11. These guys are not bright, another reason to think they are not alone.

Yeah. Regarding the 7-11 heist, either they're ballsy, suicidal or just really stupid. Take your pick, I guess.

Actually, talking with a number of eastern Euros, that's standard MO for Chechens. Massive stupidity is like their calling card apparently.

Reminds me of Taken 2. If you've not seen it, good B-movie action fare, worth a watch on a lazy Sunday afternoon....

If only to counter the slew of "those damn Muslims again!" comments.

Well, if you want those comments to stop, I guess Muslims are going to have to stop blowing E36 M3 up. The US is 75% White, and less than 1% "Arab-American." Here's a pretty good list of foiled terror attacks over the last ten years. Not a lot of "John Smiths" in there. Sorry, that's not xenophobia, it's keeping your head out of the sand and looking at some pretty obvious statistics.

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2012/04/fifty-terror-plots-foiled-since-9-11-the-homegrown-threat-and-the-long-war-on-terrorism

In reply to poopshovel:

ZOMG RACIS!

The thing I don't get, why is wishing for them to be one color (white) acceptable, and wishing they were another (brown) VERBOTEN?

All I'm wishing is that they weren't American so some scumberkeley politician doesn't see it as an opportunity to stomp all over my rights again. Oh wait, too late for that last part.

fast_eddie_72 wrote: John King reported that on CNN. "The Media" did not. In fact, the more "mainstream" the media, the more likely they were to get it right....

OK, that's interesting. I just saw it posted here. I was watching a bit of the CNN the other day and they were talking (King) about a suspect being taken to a federal court. Apparently the actual story was some sort of bomb thread, nothing to do with the suspects.

John King is not having a good week.

I do agree, the "lamestream" media seems to be a lot more reasonable / rationale in their coverage in general. They are all having a bit of a newsgasm though.

poopshovel wrote:

If only to counter the slew of "those damn Muslims again!" comments.

Well, if you want those comments to stop, I guess Muslims are going to have to stop blowing E36 M3 up.

The Aurora shooter was a legal gun owner. The Newtown shooter was a legal gun owner. I wonder if some people saying "damn Muslims" would be offended if someone were to say "damn gun owners"?

aircooled wrote:

fast_eddie_72 wrote: John King reported that on CNN. "The Media" did not. In fact, the more "mainstream" the media, the more likely they were to get it right....

OK, that's interesting. I just saw it posted here. I was watching a bit of the CNN the other day and they were talking (King) about a suspect being taken to a federal court. Apparently the actual story was some sort of bomb thread, nothing to do with the suspects. John King is not having a good week. I do agree, the "lamestream" media seems to be a lot more reasonable / rationale in their coverage in general. They are all having a bit of a newsgasm though.

CNN has blown this as badly as it can be blown. They reported that the library was bombed. They reported that they recovered unexploded devices. They reported suspecs had been arrested. They reported that there was a suspect being questioned at a hospital. None of it was accurate. I was talking to someone about this the other day and said "all anyone will remember is 'the media' got it wrong". Just sucks when so many journalists are doing such a good job telling us what's going on.

All I've heard lately, on this and other news, is how bad they've blown it. Seems to be a trend.

Funding & ratings an issue?

poopshovel wrote:

If only to counter the slew of "those damn Muslims again!" comments.

Well, if you want those comments to stop, I guess Muslims are going to have to stop blowing E36 M3 up.

Although to be fair, I'll bet there's quite a few muslims out there NOT blowing E36 M3 up today either.

(I don't pretend to be an expert on muslim religion, or pretty much any topic for that matter. But 'Muricans have their own share of people blowing E36 M3 up right here as well. Olympic games in GA and OK city come to mind pretty easily.)

Jerry wrote:

poopshovel wrote:

If only to counter the slew of "those damn Muslims again!" comments.

Well, if you want those comments to stop, I guess Muslims are going to have to stop blowing E36 M3 up.

Although to be fair, I'll bet there's quite a few muslims out there NOT blowing E36 M3 up today either. (I don't pretend to be an expert on muslim religion, or pretty much any topic for that matter. But 'Muricans have their own share of people blowing E36 M3 up right here as well. Olympic games in GA and OK city come to mind pretty easily.)

Nuts are nuts, regardless of what tree they fell out of.

fast_eddie_72 wrote: The Aurora shooter was a legal gun owner. The Newtown shooter was a legal gun owner. I wonder if some people saying "damn Muslims" would be offended if someone were to say "damn gun owners"?

You're wrong again, eddie. The Newtown shooter was not a legal gun owner. He stole the guns from his mother, after killing her. That's not legal. He had tried to purchase a gun before that but was denied by the current background check system.

You need to get your left wing talking points down better.

fast_eddie_72 wrote:

poopshovel wrote:

If only to counter the slew of "those damn Muslims again!" comments.

Well, if you want those comments to stop, I guess Muslims are going to have to stop blowing E36 M3 up.

The Aurora shooter was a legal gun owner. The Newtown shooter was a legal gun owner. I wonder if some people saying "damn Muslims" would be offended if someone were to say "damn gun owners"?

Thought the Newtown shooter had stolen the guns from his mother. Not trying to stir the pot.... just trying to understand.

Edit: got beaten too it while typing. Stuff happens fast around here.

fast_eddie_72 wrote: Well, if you want those comments to stop, I guess Muslims are going to have to stop blowing E36 M3 up.

The Aurora shooter was a legal gun owner. The Newtown shooter was a legal gun owner. I wonder if some people saying "damn Muslims" would be offended if someone were to say "damn gun owners"?

Uh Lanza was not a legal gun owner. His mother was and he shot and killed her then taking her weapons to commit the crime. So technically he was in posession of stolen firearms. Damn those criminals.

I think you've all gotten hooked by his bait proving his point. Even insuating that crazies with guns are a gun problem or implying that gun owners pose more risk than non-gun owners has gotten you going. But insuiating crazies that are muslim are a muslim problem or singling them out as a risk of blowing E36 M3 up for being muslim is something tons of people don't get bothered by.

WOW! I'd heard the brother was shot and run over, but what I didn't know is that his brother is the one that ran over him.

Dr. Hess wrote:

fast_eddie_72 wrote: The Aurora shooter was a legal gun owner. The Newtown shooter was a legal gun owner. I wonder if some people saying "damn Muslims" would be offended if someone were to say "damn gun owners"?

You're wrong again, eddie. The Newtown shooter was not a legal gun owner. He stole the guns from his mother, after killing her. That's not legal. He had tried to purchase a gun before that but was denied by the current background check system. You need to get your left wing talking points down better.

When has the left (or right) wing ever worried about FACTS in their talking points? It's much easier to just blurt out emotional drivel than it is to actually learn what is happening in the world.

Dr. Hess wrote:

fast_eddie_72 wrote: The Aurora shooter was a legal gun owner. The Newtown shooter was a legal gun owner. I wonder if some people saying "damn Muslims" would be offended if someone were to say "damn gun owners"?

You're wrong again, eddie. The Newtown shooter was not a legal gun owner. He stole the guns from his mother, after killing her.

I think you're missing my point. You're blaming him, not "gun owners", which is good (and hardly a "liberal talking point"). I'm just saying people who argue that point should probably do the same with regards to "the Muslims".

I get that you want to paint me in some box you have all figured out, but what I was trying to say is that we shouldn't curse all gun owners for the acts of an individual. I'm dissapointed that you've chosen to take some semantic arguement and attack me rather than think about what I was actually saying.

rebelgtp wrote: Uh Lanza was not a legal gun owner. His mother was and he shot and killed her then taking her weapons to commit the crime. So technically he was in posession of stolen firearms. Damn those criminals.

Yeah. Technically. And exactly - damn those criminals. That is my point.

Dr. Hess wrote:

fast_eddie_72 wrote: The Aurora shooter was a legal gun owner. The Newtown shooter was a legal gun owner. I wonder if some people saying "damn Muslims" would be offended if someone were to say "damn gun owners"?

You're wrong again, eddie. The Newtown shooter was not a legal gun owner. He stole the guns from his mother, after killing her. That's not legal. He had tried to purchase a gun before that but was denied by the current background check system. You need to get your left wing talking points down better.

To be fair, everything I have read on the subject implies his mother bought the guns for his and her use. It was some sort of mother-son bonding thing she was going for. So she has given him permission to use those weapons. Of course shooting her and using them kinda crossed the line of "permission" to use the guns.

fast_eddie_72 wrote:

Dr. Hess wrote:

fast_eddie_72 wrote: The Aurora shooter was a legal gun owner. The Newtown shooter was a legal gun owner. I wonder if some people saying "damn Muslims" would be offended if someone were to say "damn gun owners"?

You're wrong again, eddie. The Newtown shooter was not a legal gun owner. He stole the guns from his mother, after killing her.

I think you're missing my point. You're blaming him, not "gun owners", which is good (and hardly a "liberal talking point"). I'm just saying people who argue that point should probably do the same with regards to "the Muslims". I get that you want to paint me in some box you have all figured out, but what I was trying to say is that we *shouldn't* curse all gun owners for the acts of an individual. I'm dissapointed that you've chosen to take some semantic arguement and attack me rather than think about what I was actually saying.

But they do..... so........ ?

Bobzilla wrote: But they do..... so........ ?

Who?

.....sigh...... nevermind. You don't want to have an honest conversation, I can see that now and I'm not into concrete patios. For that reason........

I'm out.