volvoclearinghouse wrote: Two things that break up a marriage: Money and Lack of Communication.
Hmm, if you listen to most of those participating in divorces, the two things that break up a marriage are crazy bitches and inattentive drinkin' cheatin' shiny happy people. Or maybe that's just in country songs.
spitfirebill wrote: I'm glad us dumb southerners don't do hockey.
Doesn't have to be that expensive. House leagues are cheaper, and good enough for most kids.
mtn wrote:spitfirebill wrote: I'm glad us dumb southerners don't do hockey.Doesn't have to be that expensive. House leagues are cheaper, and good enough for most kids.
No...I just hate hockey. But the money thing is a factor.
BTW, my daughter got into dancing and cheerleading, so I know the pain.
captdownshift wrote: So I have 2 friends who are separated and have filed. Things have gotten nasty in the past few weeks between them and it's tough seeing it get ugly as neither is a bad person, no abuse, addiction, cheating or violence on either side. Mainly a vice of over indulging on spending tons on children's activities, think over 15k annually on sports activities for them by one and the other collects boats like some of us collect sub $3500 cars. So while separated one of the parties picked up a v12 AMG with a mountain of deferred maintenance for a song as bait, knowing that papers were going to be filed. It's strange when you get a call from a friend that they've received the divorce papers and the the other party as has for the Benz and they couldn't be happier as their plan all along was to have them go for the car, ignore 3 of the boats and end up in financial ruin from the benz. Sad to see them split, but their level of evil could get highly entertaining.
It's too late now but your friend should've just found a woman he hated & bought her a house.
Basil Exposition wrote:volvoclearinghouse wrote: Two things that break up a marriage: Money and Lack of Communication.Hmm, if you listen to most of those participating in divorces, the two things that break up a marriage are crazy bitches and inattentive drinkin' cheatin' shiny happy people. Or maybe that's just in country songs.
All bitches be crazy. Nothing you can do about that, just learn to ride the dragon.
As for the drankin' and cheatin' and honky-tonkin', that still goes back to money and communication.
I lost my favorite meatballs in the divorce...nobody makes them like she could. :(
pinchvalve wrote: I lost my favorite meatballs in the divorce...nobody makes them like she could. :(
Me too, in my first one,old family recipe for Swedish meatballs..Her grandmother could make them even better.
motomoron wrote: The idea of divorce fills me with sadness. One of my best friends is a man I've known for 30+ years. I got him back together with the woman he married, who I've known as long. I was his best man and his daughters godless heathen "godfater". I helped him get into a career track where he'd finally get ahead. Still, 22 or so years in, it imploded. 3 kids all about 7 years apart, his life in ruin. Professionally he ~just~ managed to hang on to his gig through the advocacy of colleagues who really cared about him and who knew he'd be his great self again. Some day. So I see divorce as a really serious, bad deal. And those who dip below a common, decent moral high ground to be questionable in their judgement. I'm very, very aware of how great my wife and I have it. We knew going in we most likely weren't going in the direction of having kids, preferring work, travel, cats and renovation. We set up from day one with a financial structure of an "our money into which we pay on % of earnings" plus out own accounts we had for the balance. We support each other, and try to be kind and empathetic because that's what people do. We're both atheists and like 98% of the same odd music. On the day her mom died, a few hours later - my stuff was all set up in the paddock at Summit Point from the day prior - she asked "If we leave right now, can you still make your qualifying race? I mean, there's nothing we can do here..." So this person is the biggest thing in my world above all, and while I understand people growing apart, the idea of it make me feel sort of ill.
Very well said!
Beer Baron wrote:mfennell wrote:How the berkeley? I could spec race for half of that.captdownshift wrote: It's not just the funds spent on the kids, it's the level of competition they've been pushed into with only 1 of the 3 enjoying it, the travel schedule to cities for meets that the kids only get to see a hotel and gym at. The fact that they're on the road every weekend and have practice 4 nights during the week and never have time as a family unit.I suspect the number is way higher than $15k. I've heard it's possible around here to spend $20k/yr for ONE kid to play hockey. Total insanity.
This is the current model of upper middle class parenting. It's a bragging right for parents to have their lives relegated to driving to/from their kids' sporting events and standing at their kids' sporting events. So many of my friends are in this vortex at the moment. The barren me is baffled by it.
Meanwhile, I'm seeing my older parent friends, who, after all that, aren't pursuing sports as they enter college or aren't even making their high school teams (if they went to a particularly competitive high school).
It's a big projection of their athletic shortcomings. Living vicariously through their kids and completely losing their own identities in the process.
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