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Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku UberDork
1/22/14 9:02 a.m.
Conquest351 wrote:
Appleseed wrote: In reply to Conquest351: Lycoming IO-720 for that Porsche vibe.
I believe we have a winner. With turbos or a centrifugal period looking blower bolted directly to the crank. Are these engines redily available or are they one of those obscure non findable engine?

+100!

Conquest351
Conquest351 UltraDork
1/22/14 9:09 a.m.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycoming_IO-720

Wait, $66,000 for an engine? I believe we need to find another source. LOL

Conquest351
Conquest351 UltraDork
1/22/14 9:10 a.m.
Gearheadotaku wrote:
fanfoy wrote: V8? Check Air-cooled? Check Available in the 50's? check In a rear-engined car? check We have a winner!
Dumb question of the day, what is this?

Tucker if I'm not mistaken.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim PowerDork
1/22/14 9:17 a.m.

Tatra, not Tucker.

Conquest351
Conquest351 UltraDork
1/22/14 9:31 a.m.
BoxheadTim wrote: Tatra, not Tucker.

Guess I was mistaken. LOL

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim PowerDork
1/22/14 9:33 a.m.

Tatras are probably more uncommon over here than Tuckers .

Conquest351
Conquest351 UltraDork
1/22/14 9:45 a.m.

Soooo, you're saying we can't find those engines either? Damn...

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson PowerDork
1/22/14 10:45 a.m.

There's a company that take late aircooled 911 Carrara eninges and lops of two cyl's to make a flat 4. Use that as a base with a centrifugal blower on it. That should meet the funky old /new VeeDub criteria.

For me I'd do a TT VR6 engine.

Conquest351
Conquest351 UltraDork
1/22/14 10:58 a.m.

W12 From a VW Phaeton or Bentley?

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr Dork
1/22/14 11:39 a.m.

Why not just throw an old auto union Grand Prix engine in there?

Conquest351
Conquest351 UltraDork
1/22/14 11:51 a.m.

We are trying to keep this SOMEWHAT affordable. LOL Something that can be built for a reasonable budget.

Thinkkker
Thinkkker UltraDork
1/22/14 12:34 p.m.

Ok, you say 600+ hp. If you build this and do it without all the fluff you can have a sub 4000# car. Probably even 3000#!

I say that just to say that, while awesome, I think with 400 or so it could be neat.

As for engine, I would say Straight 8, or a Flathead V12 lincoln or something. That would be sweet.

fanfoy
fanfoy HalfDork
1/22/14 12:49 p.m.
Conquest351 wrote:
Gearheadotaku wrote:
fanfoy wrote: V8? Check Air-cooled? Check Available in the 50's? check In a rear-engined car? check We have a winner!
Dumb question of the day, what is this?
Tucker if I'm not mistaken.

It's a Tatra V8 out of a 603. It's a really interesting engine. While really uncommon in cars, they can be found north of the border in the Tatra trucks. They kept using that engine until the 80's if memory serves me right. Suppose to be really sturdy, and for some reason, they really pick my curiousity.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim PowerDork
1/22/14 1:17 p.m.
Conquest351 wrote: Soooo, you're saying we can't find those engines either? Damn...

You can, but you might have to get one shipped over from the Czech republic (or Canada, by the sounds of it).

Interesting tidbit - Tatras have been using a platform chassis with a central member since the thirties and successfully sued VW in the 50s for "borrowing" the design...

Appleseed
Appleseed UltimaDork
1/22/14 11:52 p.m.

Dude, that's for a brand new , zero time IO-720 engine. You can find used ones cheaper.

These are planes that used them.

IO-720-A1A

Northwest Ranger - factory installation
Piper Comanche 400 - factory installation

IO-720-A1B

Beechcraft 80 - Excalibur and Queen Air conversion
Pacific Aerospace FU-24-954
Piper PA-36 Pawnee Brave - Johnson Aircraft conversion

IO-720-A1BD

Barr

IO-720-B1A

Northwest Ranger C-6 - factory installation

IO-720-B1B

Aero Commander - MR. R.P.M. conversion

IO-720-B1BD

Aero Commander - MR. R.P.M. conversion

IO-720-D1B

Embraer EMB 202 Ipanema - factory installation

IO-720-D1C

Piper PA-36 Pawnee Brave - Johnson Aircraft conversion

IO-720-D1CD

Piper PA-36 Pawnee Brave - Johnson Aircraft conversion
Conquest351
Conquest351 UltraDork
1/23/14 7:59 a.m.

In reply to Appleseed:

What would one expect to pay for a used one that's not really flight worthy or whatever?

Appleseed
Appleseed UltimaDork
1/23/14 10:07 a.m.

I would guess $30,000 for a flight worthy example. They're too big to be popular with the homebuilding crowd. Expect 1/2 to 1/3 less than that if its been de-certified or in parts. De-certified means its been re-built by a non A&P and can never again be used in a factory plane.

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