I was going to buy a Honda gun. So it wouldn't have these problems because Honda's are perfect, right? 
I was going to buy a Honda gun. So it wouldn't have these problems because Honda's are perfect, right?
In reply to bravenrace:
Just go get a .223 hi-point, why don't ya.
A what?
bravenrace wrote: I was going to buy a Honda gun. So it wouldn't have these problems because Honda's are perfect, right?
The models S2000 and NSX are. The rest fire from the wrong end.
Jim,
All the cruft of this thread aside..........to answer your original question (and to reiterate some of what's been said already before):
Try out weapons that interest you, then after you buy, practice at the range. For funsies, see if getting involved with an IPDA group is up your alley (handgun related activities). Mrs. Orphancars had her heart set on a 9mm. After renting a few guns at the range one afternoon her preference changed......she much preferred the .40 cal over the 9mm.
My personal opinion? I prefer handguns over a shotgun. Just personal preference here.
More personal preference here -- glock and sig make a pretty decent weapon. I've put thousands of rounds through mine and haven't had an issue. Easy to clean.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you need help finding a CCW class in the area -- I have an uncle that does classes up that way.
In reply to bravenrace:
Its the one that uh... Fires from the wrong end...
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:bravenrace wrote: I was going to buy a Honda gun. So it wouldn't have these problems because Honda's are perfect, right?The models S2000 and NSX are. The rest fire from the wrong end.
I didn't know that. I actually prefer the S2000 and NSX over that old N600 model anyway.
NSX is on my lust list.
My buddy is going to take me to a firing range where I can try out different guns. He recommended a 9mm, but said I should try others and decide for myself. He also recommended a safety class. It sounds to me like he's pretty much on the same page as the good info you guys provided here, so I think I'll do that and go from there. I really don't need or have time for a new hobby, but I'll do it long enough to feel comfortable with the gun and gain some skill with it.
TRoglodyte wrote: NSX is on my lust list.
Got a pic? Is it a 9mm?
bravenrace wrote: My buddy is going to take me to a firing range where I can try out different guns. He recommended a 9mm, but said I should try others and decide for myself. He also recommended a safety class. It sounds to me like he's pretty much on the same page as the good info you guys provided here, so I think I'll do that and go from there. I really don't need or have time for a new hobby, but I'll do it long enough to feel comfortable with the gun and gain some skill with it.
In all seriousness - this is as good a start as any. As I said earlier... developing a muscle memory for handling the weapon safely and instinctively aiming and firing are key. Just like driving - the only way to get there is to practice with good habits. So, if you can - do a class so you don't begin by reinforcing bad habits. Have fun.
joey48442 wrote:Xceler8x wrote: You might want to read some books by Massod Ayoob. Sounds like a terrorist but he's a gun self-defense guy that makes some good points.No, he doesnt sound like a terrorist, he sounds like an American. No much of an accent, really. Hes awesome. Joey
I should've clarified. His name sounds like a terrorist. But yeah, the guy seems to speak from a place of knowledge. I haven't shot anyone so I can't verify his accuracy.
Xceler8x wrote:joey48442 wrote:I should've clarified. His *name* sounds like a terrorist. But yeah, the guy seems to speak from a place of knowledge. I haven't shot anyone so I can't verify his accuracy.Xceler8x wrote: You might want to read some books by Massod Ayoob. Sounds like a terrorist but he's a gun self-defense guy that makes some good points.No, he doesnt sound like a terrorist, he sounds like an American. No much of an accent, really. Hes awesome. Joey
I knew what you meant, I was just being an ass. But really, his name sounds more doctor of dentistry than terrorist to me.
Joey
If you're talking pistol, I love my Ruger P345. Its a .45. The P345 was catered towards police. Its a lightweight with a weaver rail. That's nice if you're looking for a flashlight or laser attachment. Its a very simple construction. You can take it down and clean it without any worries. Its nothing you are going to field strip quickly though. Ive never had it jam on me.
Here's some you may want to try:
Glock 9mm, or .40 (Do not get a Glock .45) Springfield XDM 9mm. Holds 19+1. So you can hit them... 20 times. (check out the .40 as well. Obviously wont hold as many rounds.) Springfield XD 9 or .40. Sig .40 I'm a big fan of any Ruger.
Do you have a budget? Kimber makes very very nice pistols but not cheap. I personally like 1911 style pistols. I have heard a lot of good things about the Rock Island Armory 1911 and they are decent priced.
also be aware of this:
Can you shoot a burglar? (WikiAnswers)
This depends on where you live, laws vary. In most places, you can only shoot a burglar if you fear for your own life.
Sixteen states have adopted "Stand Your Ground" laws that allow an individual to use deadly force to protect a residence, place of business, vehicle or other property, so far Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, Louisiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee, South Carolina, South Dakota, Virginia and Washington have enacted statutes. The law states that an individual in self-defense "has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force,it also forbids the arrest, detention or prosecution of the shooters covered by the law, and it prohibits civil suits against them..
There are requirements that vary from state to state before deadly force can be used a few examples are:An intruder must be making or have made an attempt to unlawfully and/or forcibly enter an occupied home, business or car. The occupant of the home must reasonably believe that the intruder intends to inflict bodily harm or death upon an occupant of the home. The occupant of the home must reasonably believe that the intruder intends to commit some other felony, such as arson or burglary. The occupant of the home must not have provoked or instigated an intrusion, or provoked or instigated an intruder to threaten or use deadly force.
Know your state laws
Shooting armed intruders in a home invasion would be justifiable, shooting a fleeing suspect in the back is not.
Several years back I took a 4-day defensive handgun course. Looking at all of the instructors for all of the courses and noticed that the majority of instructors were carrying Glocks and nearly all the rest had 1911s.
I also learned that I do not like double action automatics.
Smaller caliber is not always preferable for a woman. My girlfriend found it much easier to handle a 1911 than a 9mm Glock. The slide spring was too strong, and she did not have the grip to control the recoil enough to properly eject.
93EXCivic wrote: Do you have a budget? Kimber makes very very nice pistols but not cheap. I personally like 1911 style pistols. I have heard a lot of good things about the Rock Island Armory 1911 and they are decent priced.
Kimber WAS an excellent name in 1911s. Now, they're the Toyota (Lexus) of them. They'll work, but no thanks.
Back to the question posed by the OP, another vote here for a 2.5-4" .357mag revolver for a house gun. Easy to find, cheap enough ammo for practice with 38spl, reliable as a hammer. Don't bother with a 6" barrel, you won't need it indoors.
Practice!!
Xceler8x wrote:joey48442 wrote:I should've clarified. His *name* sounds like a terrorist. But yeah, the guy seems to speak from a place of knowledge. I haven't shot anyone so I can't verify his accuracy.Xceler8x wrote: You might want to read some books by Massod Ayoob. Sounds like a terrorist but he's a gun self-defense guy that makes some good points.No, he doesnt sound like a terrorist, he sounds like an American. No much of an accent, really. Hes awesome. Joey
For the record, I STRONGLY advise against using Massad Ayoob as any kind of legal reference. I've read more than one of his columns (in whichever magazine it is that he writes for...) that were dangerously wrong, at least in terms of MO state law. Get legal advice from an attorney, not a writer.
And he's rather prone to hyperbole anyway.
Grain of salt and all that.
Osterkraut wrote:93EXCivic wrote: Do you have a budget? Kimber makes very very nice pistols but not cheap. I personally like 1911 style pistols. I have heard a lot of good things about the Rock Island Armory 1911 and they are decent priced.Kimber WAS an excellent name in 1911s. Now, they're the Toyota (Lexus) of them. They'll work, but no thanks.
Really?? The ones I have shot were very nice. Better then a number of other semi-auto pistols.
93EXCivic wrote:Osterkraut wrote:Really?? The ones I have shot were very nice. Better then a number of other semi-auto pistols.93EXCivic wrote: Do you have a budget? Kimber makes very very nice pistols but not cheap. I personally like 1911 style pistols. I have heard a lot of good things about the Rock Island Armory 1911 and they are decent priced.Kimber WAS an excellent name in 1911s. Now, they're the Toyota (Lexus) of them. They'll work, but no thanks.
The one I rented at the range was great to shoot. But let's face it this is GRM. If one were to pick up a 1911 there are tons of ways to customize it.
clutchsmoke wrote:93EXCivic wrote:The one I rented at the range was great to shoot. But let's face it this is GRM. If one were to pick up a 1911 there are tons of ways to customize it.Osterkraut wrote:Really?? The ones I have shot were very nice. Better then a number of other semi-auto pistols.93EXCivic wrote: Do you have a budget? Kimber makes very very nice pistols but not cheap. I personally like 1911 style pistols. I have heard a lot of good things about the Rock Island Armory 1911 and they are decent priced.Kimber WAS an excellent name in 1911s. Now, they're the Toyota (Lexus) of them. They'll work, but no thanks.
My part time gig is in a surplus store and we teach CCW. The teacher uses a 1911 as a home defense weapon and advises on it. It has a flashlight, laser, and a trigger pull around 1/2 lb. I don't like the trigger pull that light, but he sure does. Very nice weapon.
In reply to N Sperlo:
Hi-Point, low quality. My son had the 9mm carbine. Crazy cheap and wild looking. Made in Mansfield OH.
93EXCivic wrote:Osterkraut wrote:Really?? The ones I have shot were very nice. Better then a number of other semi-auto pistols.93EXCivic wrote: Do you have a budget? Kimber makes very very nice pistols but not cheap. I personally like 1911 style pistols. I have heard a lot of good things about the Rock Island Armory 1911 and they are decent priced.Kimber WAS an excellent name in 1911s. Now, they're the Toyota (Lexus) of them. They'll work, but no thanks.
Really. They've been riding on their name for awhile now, and it's no longer big money to make a great 1911. If I was to throw more than RIA money at a 1911, I'd buy an STI.
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