Why, it's almost as if art is subjective. 
Why, it's almost as if art is subjective.
Agreed, Avatar is terrible. A simplistic, melodramatic storyline with possibly the most stereotyped, one-dimensional characters ever written, wrapped in an expensive wrapper that utterly failed to make up for the total lack of substance inside. And even a lack of substance can be forgivable... but not when it has pretensions of being deep and thought-provoking.
Another popular producer / director I can't stand is Zack Snyder. We get it, 300 was good. Now move on. And 300's quality was largely down to Frank Miller, not Zack Snyder.
The Nightmare Before Christmas . Lets get one thing straight: its not a bad movie in any way. I like stop motion, I like Tom Burton. But it does nothing for me.
Lord of the Rings. Walking. Hours and hours of walking. I watched the first 2 movies in the theater. Never saw the last one. They never hooked me. And I dig fantasy . Beastmaster, Conan, Dark Crystal. But not this series.
Harry Potter. Nope. No interest. None.
I must be easily impressed. I really enjoy most of the movies listed here.
Ones that I dislike: LOTR, Citizen Kane, and some (but not all) Woody Allen movies.
I'm not saying that they're all as good as the world thinks they are, but I enjoy them.
Wally (Forum Supporter) said:Star Wars, all of them. I am baffled by the appeal.
I truly like Episode IV - A New Hope (the original), Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back, Rogue One, and The Mandalorean. The rest range from mediocre-at-best to outright terrible.
Appleseed said:The Nightmare Before Christmas . Lets get one thing straight: its not a bad movie in any way. I like stop motion, I like Tom Burton. But it does nothing for me.
I don't really like anything Tim Burton's ever done.
Wonder Woman was horrible, for it supposedly being about girl power she basically spent the whole movie screwing up
I'll go against the grain a bit here - I liked Peter Jackson's LOTR trilogy. There were some important characters and bits he shouldn't have left out, but overall I thought they were solid and beautifully crafted.
His Hobbit trilogy, on the other hand, should never have been allowed to defile Tolkein's good name. Every existing copy should be located and burned so we can all pretend they never happened.
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) said:Why, it's almost as if art is subjective.
Well, sure, but the whole interesting part is the discussion about where individuals' subjectivity runs counter to the overwhelming "norm".
Duke said:Appleseed said:The Nightmare Before Christmas . Lets get one thing straight: its not a bad movie in any way. I like stop motion, I like Tom Burton. But it does nothing for me.
I don't really like anything Tim Burton's ever done.
Oh, good call. I liked James and the Giant Peach, Big Fish, and 9. All the others were pretty much unwatchable for me (though I have never seen Beetlejuice)
The only movie I ever walked out on was Con Air. Goodness me what crap. I Woulda walked out on Independence Day but I stuck around to see if it could possibly get worse. Well, it kept getting worse. It takes some effort to go beyond "we're gonna write a virus and hack an alien computer system", but that movie kept limbo-ing under its constantly lowered bar...
Duke said:Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) said:Why, it's almost as if art is subjective.
Well, sure, but the whole interesting part is the discussion about where individuals' subjectivity runs counter to the overwhelming "norm".
Well that's kinda easy and also ties to another thread. Anytime anything is "award winning" or "critically acclaimed" 95% of the time, it's a dumpster fire. The other 5% that are actually good are just flukes.
I don't trust "professional" critics because they're paid for their opinion, I don't trust crowd source reviews, because people are petty, vindictive, and stupid, which leaves me inn a weird place of gambling on movies and letting other people know if they're actually worth the time to watch, or hoping friends with similar interests to mine find things first.
A good rule of thumb that doesn't seem to apply any longer is that if critics trash something, it might be worth watching. That hasn't seemed to work the past decade or so though, at least for me.
Almost everything that wins a Best Picture Oscar. But especially 'The Revenant' and 'The Departed'. I also though 'Us' was crap.
'The Lobster' was an obnoxious fart-sniffing movie that I swear critics only reviewed positively because they were afraid people would think they were stupid if they said, "I didn't get it," when the reality was there wasn't much there to get.
mtn said:Duke said:I don't really like anything Tim Burton's ever done.
Oh, good call. I liked James and the Giant Peach, Big Fish, and 9. All the others were pretty much unwatchable for me (though I have never seen Beetlejuice)
Beetlejuice is the best of a pretty bad lot, but it is almost entirely carried by Michael Keaton in his first prime.
Alien hit a pretty pitch-perfect note. Aliens managed to sustain it. Anything else in the franchise after that is crap, especially the Prometheus prequels / sequels / whatever the hell they were.
Not that I've seen very many, but I've never been impressed by a Tarantino movie.
The Search For The Holy Grail
I've tried, oh my FSM I've tried, but it's just terrible. Snippets of humor buried under FAR too long a movie. Like a slightly amusing SNL skit that doesn't know when to call it a wrap and move on.
rob_lewis said:Avatar. Was a huge hit, lauded in all the press. I couldn't stand it. Thought the story was stupid and wasn't that impressed with the aliens.
The Lord of the Rings films. I know I have to turn in my software engineering business card by saying it, but I just can't keep up with the characters, the dialog or the story. When the first one came out, I actually fell asleep in the theater trying to watch it. My wife loves them and I take them as a good opportunity to nap.
-Rob
This. Along with the aforementioned Napoleon dynamite, and my personal favorite- Hamilton. I watched it because swmbo and I actually met because of theater (I was tricked by the wiles of a woman into being in a high school play...and then she asked me out) and mother of God was I bored. My favorite part of the entire thing was when the floor rotated, because I thought the mechanics behind it were neat.
In reply to KyAllroad :
If you didn't grow up watching the original Monty Python's Flying Circus shows in their first American run on late-night PBS, after your parents told you to go to bed, and hoping for a quick glimpse of naked boob, then I can understand your position.
But if you did grow up watching the shows, Holy Grail is just 2 or 3 MPFC episodes back to back, with all the skits having a common theme of medieval England.
In reply to Mndsm :
I'm not even touching on the entire genre of movies made of musical theatre productions, because I despise the very concept of musical theatre.
In reply to Duke :
The only part of Dunkirk I enjoyed were the aerial scenes.
There was no sense of dread or defeat, just a bunch of soldiers on a beach looking out to the sea.
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) said:The first fast and furious movie. I made it 10 minutes, and stopped it. That convinced me that I never wanted to try and watch any of the others.
The key to enjoying the original The Fast and the Furious is to get that it's a comedy.
Even if it's possible it was not supposed to be.
I with many here. Avatar sucks as a movie. It was OK to see in the cinema for the visuals, but the plot was pathetic.
LOTR trilogy to me is epic. I can't imagine a better book to movie transformation. Yes he left a lot of stuff out from the books, but it still works as a complete story arc. Whoever insisted that Jackson turned the Hobbit into three movies though needs to be taken out back and shot with bullets made from all the extra coin they managed to squeeze out of punters who had to sit through the train wreck.
Tenet, I think it may have been a reasonable movie, but I just couldn't hear the dialogue. I literally had no idea what was being said on screen. When even some of the actors say they didn't fully understand the movie, how the hell are the punters supposed to understand when they can't even hear the dialogue.
Star Wars ep I, II, and III, never have three movies done so much disservice to a franchise. They are ripe for being re-written and made with decent scripts. I think even the most die hard fans could get behind that move to fix the franchise.
Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter) said:Star Wars ep I, II, and III, never have three movies done so much disservice to a franchise. They are ripe for being re-written and made with decent scripts. I think even the most die hard fans could get behind that move to fix the franchise.
Ep [ VII, VIII, and IX ] are not much better than the prequels, except for the notable absence of Jarjar (the Forrest Gump of the Star Wars universe).
Rogue One knocked it out of the park. Solo was mediocre at best.
anything Bruce Willis is in.
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