AAZCD (Forum Supporter)
AAZCD (Forum Supporter) Dork
8/4/20 2:04 a.m.
There has been a lot of death in my area this week *my week is from Wednesday to Tuesday*. More than I'm used to. Nobody I knew. Not people who were expected to die. All sorts of causes and I don't need to list them. Some died quick and clean. ...well not 'clean', but it was abrupt and over without a fuss. Some have their heart made to pump again and air pushed to the lungs for a time, but they were gone. CPR is violent.  I'm waiting for one now that may live still. I waited for one earlier tonight until we were told it was over.
Live while you can. Don't say, "Tomorrow I'll start living healthy." Too many people pass that moment where they could have made a change. 
Not just physical health. Mental health takes lives. Reach out, talk, share, open up. These are hard times for many and just being able to share a burden can help someone get to the next day.
pilotbraden
pilotbraden UltraDork
8/4/20 3:12 a.m.

My good friend Melissa perform CPR on her next door neighbor her between 10 and 12 minutes over the weekend she got a pulse and then would lose it. When the ambulance got there they too would lose his pulse and get it back. She seems rather wigged-out by this whole situation. I told her she did a damn good job and that she should not doubt herself in the least. When I last talked to her he thought he was going to die within the hour.

I agree help people out talk to them do whatever you can. Most people are interesting if you have an open mind and give them a chance

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/4/20 6:01 a.m.

I underestimated how brutal CPR is, but have had to do it twice in the past few years, first helping a driver with an unresponsive customer then with Jodi. Thankfully the customer had a pulse when EMS removed him but we had taken turns and it was tougher than I expected.  If I slump over at some point I'd be ok with anyone there not putting themselves through it. 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
8/4/20 6:36 a.m.

In reply to Wally (Forum Supporter) :

I'm glad I've never been in that situation. Isn't the the saying basically proper CPR breaks ribs?

jharry3
jharry3 HalfDork
8/4/20 7:37 a.m.
z31maniac said:

In reply to Wally (Forum Supporter) :

I'm glad I've never been in that situation. Isn't the the saying basically proper CPR breaks ribs?

Mrs Jharry3 is a M.D.  That's what she tells me.  

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) UltimaDork
8/4/20 9:22 a.m.

In college on the track team who I worked out with collapsed, went unconscious and coded while pushing out the 4th rep in his 2nd set of squats. I administrated CPR for 26 minutes until EMTs arrived and attempted to revive him with a defibrillator. It was to no avail as he had suffered a brain aneurysm. My hands were bruised from the efforts. The school had within the gym and halls within 2 weeks. 

That year as a whole was brutal. Danny's aneurysm, another friend's suicide after a physical fight to attempt to wrestle the shotgun away from him and a double homicide at work that was perverse and gnarly enough to cause me to leave law enforcement as a profession. 

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/4/20 12:08 p.m.
Wally (Forum Supporter) said:

If I slump over at some point I'd be ok with anyone there not putting themselves through it. 

i would CPR the berkeley out of you.

barefootskater
barefootskater UltraDork
8/4/20 1:07 p.m.
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) said:
Wally (Forum Supporter) said:

If I slump over at some point I'd be ok with anyone there not putting themselves through it. 

i would CPR the berkeley out of you.

You know they don't do the kissing part anymore, right?

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/4/20 1:33 p.m.
barefootskater said:
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) said:
Wally (Forum Supporter) said:

If I slump over at some point I'd be ok with anyone there not putting themselves through it. 

i would CPR the berkeley out of you.

You know they don't do the kissing part anymore, right?

You still can though.

 

 

SVreX (Forum Supporter)
SVreX (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/4/20 1:42 p.m.

No matter how bizarre someone's comment is, Wally can ALWAYS trump it!! laugh

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/4/20 2:00 p.m.

In reply to SVreX (Forum Supporter) :

It's a gift and a curse.

KyAllroad (Jeremy) (Forum Supporter)
KyAllroad (Jeremy) (Forum Supporter) UltimaDork
8/4/20 2:43 p.m.

In my 4 years in the ER I performed CPR 16 times on actual people.  I was recognized my experts as one of the best at it.  
 

It was successful exactly zero of those times.

 

If you get electrocuted or drown, it might be useful.  If you have the Big One (Redd Foxx style) it's......not.   And 100% of the nurses I worked with swore they were getting DNR tattooed on their chests for their final years.  Coding someone is very rough.

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/4/20 4:08 p.m.

In reply to KyAllroad (Jeremy) (Forum Supporter) :

I'm not sure what happened to the kid on the bus, EMS got there quick, shocked him, and claimed he had a pulse again but nothing looked promising as they ran off. Jodi was gone before I stopped the car but a guy that was in the park and I tried anyway.  

AAZCD (Forum Supporter)
AAZCD (Forum Supporter) Dork
8/5/20 3:29 a.m.

Again. 2nd MVA (car wreck) for the night. We were on scene waiting for the extraction. I never saw the car or the patient, too far off the road and down.... You have to be alive to ride on the helicopter. I flew home alone, my paramedic and nurse helping out in the back of the ambulance for the ride to the hospital. If they're still doing CPR it's been 45 minutes. They are going to be beat by the time they come back and there are storms coming. We are done for the night. Be safe. Be kind. Wash your hands.

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/5/20 3:34 a.m.

I don't know how you guys do it but I'm glad you do, Thank You. 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
8/5/20 9:40 a.m.
Wally (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to KyAllroad (Jeremy) (Forum Supporter) :

Jodi was gone before I stopped the car but a guy that was in the park and I tried anyway.  

Wow, I didn't know that's how it happened.  I'm so sorry, Wally.  So sorry.

My favorite architectural clients were a late-middle-aged couple who had me design their retirement home, carefully tailored to be exactly what they wanted.  They were great clients.

About 5 years after it was done, they went out to dinner with their adult son to celebrate the husband's birthday.  The husband excused himself to visit the restroom, stood up, and dropped on the spot.  Gone before he hit the floor.

There's something to be said for that.  Doesn't make it any less of a tragedy, though.

 

WonkoTheSane (Forum Supporter)
WonkoTheSane (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
8/5/20 10:54 a.m.

I will say that one of my developers who is an older gent now got saved on a hiking trip by some scouts & scoutmasters who did CPR on him for ~20 minutes about a decade ago after he collasped at the campgrounds. 

In the CPR class I've taken, the lady said that in actual use it's only going to help maybe 10-20% of the time.  But if it's something that can be helped, that's way better than a 0% chance.

 

My hats off to anyone who works in the field or related.. you guys are amazing.

 

KyAllroad - do you think that your attempts failed because of the time it took to get people to the ER, or because if they're already in the ER things have already gone too far to be brought back?

Oh, and as an aside, I genuinely thought this thread was going to be about that Jim Carroll Band song..

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