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Duke
Duke MegaDork
5/19/16 4:08 p.m.
Ashyukun wrote:
mndsm wrote: Music is still edited. But...no one buys music on physical media anymore.
Fixed that a bit...

And that's exactly where you're wrong. I'm not paying actual cash for anything that is totally dependent upon DRM if I can possibly avoid it.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
5/19/16 4:10 p.m.

I openly prefer physicaal media. However its nearly impossible t9 get good discs locally anymore. Best buy sucks. Fye is all but dead.

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler UltraDork
5/19/16 9:45 p.m.
Duke wrote:
Ashyukun wrote:
mndsm wrote: Music is still edited. But...no one buys music on physical media anymore.
Fixed that a bit...
And that's exactly where you're wrong. I'm not paying actual cash for anything that is totally dependent upon DRM if I can *possibly* avoid it.

Plenty of places to get DRM-free music these days. But I do buy physical media sometimes. Amazon has a great selection of music.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
5/20/16 8:25 a.m.
Duke wrote:
Ashyukun wrote:
mndsm wrote: Music is still edited. But...no one buys music on physical media anymore.
Fixed that a bit...
And that's exactly where you're wrong. I'm not paying actual cash for anything that is totally dependent upon DRM if I can *possibly* avoid it.

+1. I buy lots of DRM-free games, and I'd buy DRM-free music.

Jerry
Jerry UltraDork
5/20/16 12:07 p.m.
Tom_Spangler wrote:
Duke wrote:
Ashyukun wrote:
mndsm wrote: Music is still edited. But...no one buys music on physical media anymore.
Fixed that a bit...
And that's exactly where you're wrong. I'm not paying actual cash for anything that is totally dependent upon DRM if I can *possibly* avoid it.
Plenty of places to get DRM-free music these days. But I do buy physical media sometimes. Amazon has a great selection of music.

I've bought many an mp3 album from Amazon the last couple years, all DRM-free. The #1 reason I have never bought an iTune ever.

Duke
Duke MegaDork
5/21/16 9:10 a.m.
Jerry wrote:
Tom_Spangler wrote:
Duke wrote:
Ashyukun wrote:
mndsm wrote: Music is still edited. But...no one buys music on physical media anymore.
Fixed that a bit...
And that's exactly where you're wrong. I'm not paying actual cash for anything that is totally dependent upon DRM if I can *possibly* avoid it.
Plenty of places to get DRM-free music these days. But I do buy physical media sometimes. Amazon has a great selection of music.
I've bought many an mp3 album from Amazon the last couple years, all DRM-free. The #1 reason I have never bought an iTune ever.

It may be"DRM-free", but it's wholly dependent upon an electronic copy, or Amazon's servers remembering that you bought it and are allowed to listen to it.

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler UltraDork
5/21/16 9:50 a.m.
Duke wrote: It may be"DRM-free", but it's wholly dependent upon an electronic copy, or Amazon's servers remembering that you bought it and are allowed to listen to it.

Yes, to the former, no to the latter. When I put it on a thumb drive and listen to it in my car, Amazon has nothing to do with it. Yes, it's an electronic copy, but it's mine and I can copy it and back it up and put it on as many computers and devices as I want. There's no physical way that Amazon or anyone else is going to stop me.

NickD
NickD Dork
5/25/16 10:55 a.m.

That just sounds like alcohol poisoning to me. Also, want to slap whoever used "brakes" instead of "breaks".

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
5/25/16 11:00 a.m.
NickD wrote: That just sounds like alcohol poisoning to me. Also, want to slap whoever used "brakes" instead of "breaks".

Somehow i dont think thats on accident. Deadpool is self aware enough thay E36 M3 like that might be done just to berkeley with you.

keethrax
keethrax Dork
5/25/16 11:58 a.m.
Duke wrote:
Ashyukun wrote:
mndsm wrote: Music is still edited. But...no one buys music on physical media anymore.
Fixed that a bit...
And that's exactly where you're wrong. I'm not paying actual cash for anything that is totally dependent upon DRM if I can *possibly* avoid it.

Eh, DRM and what added benefits may or may not come with it is just another factor in how much I'm willing to pay.

For me, a DRMed product with no additional redeeming qualities is worth about 15-25% of its DRM free alternative for something I doubt I'll care too much about in the long term (say 5 years out).

For example, lets say we're talking about music in digital form. And there's an album that I'm digging, but know it's not likely to remain a favorite forever. If the DRM free option is $15, then $5 for a DRMed version is fine with me. If it grows on me more than I thought, and gets bumped up to long term favorite status, maybe I have to pay the extra $15 later. In that case, I've probably listened to it so often that even $20 is in 'who cares' territory when compared to the value I got out of it. And if I listen to it a bunch for 6 months to a year and then don't care anymore, I saved $10.

Software gets more complicated, but similar logic applies.

Jerry
Jerry UltraDork
5/25/16 12:16 p.m.
Duke wrote:
Jerry wrote:
Tom_Spangler wrote:
Duke wrote:
Ashyukun wrote:
mndsm wrote: Music is still edited. But...no one buys music on physical media anymore.
Fixed that a bit...
And that's exactly where you're wrong. I'm not paying actual cash for anything that is totally dependent upon DRM if I can *possibly* avoid it.
Plenty of places to get DRM-free music these days. But I do buy physical media sometimes. Amazon has a great selection of music.
I've bought many an mp3 album from Amazon the last couple years, all DRM-free. The #1 reason I have never bought an iTune ever.
It may be"DRM-free", but it's wholly dependent upon an electronic copy, or Amazon's servers remembering that you bought it and are allowed to listen to it.

Uh. I bought the mp3 album(s). It's on my desktop. And my iPod. And an external backup hardrive. (I'm not talking about whatever Prime music service or anything.) EDIT: now see the "electronic copy" comment, I focused on the server-thing.

Brian
Brian MegaDork
5/27/16 7:58 p.m.

I must say it made the new X Men hard to watch with a straight face. "House blowing up builds character". Resisting the urge to shout "For Winterfell" when Jean Gray decided to kick butt also was hard.

Time to watch deadpool again.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
5/28/16 12:15 a.m.

FYI, when you watch Deadpool on Air Canada, there does not appear to have been any editing. I figured it would have been sanitized (and thus about 15 minutes long), but no. Fair warning to those taking kids on the plane.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
5/28/16 10:51 a.m.

Mad props to Air Canada!

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