drainoil
drainoil Reader
4/20/14 8:53 a.m.

When I bought my house, the previous owner painted the deck which is 14x16, and is a west facing exposure. It's made of green treated and although about 20 years old, everything is structurally sound.

I get how to scrape, power wash, etc, to get the deck prepped for new stain. However I'm looking for first hand info from any grm'ers that have used either deck renew by Rustoleum or the Behr equivalent. Sounds like this stuff is much thicker than deck paint or stain. Just looking to see if you like it and how it's held up.

failboat
failboat UltraDork
4/20/14 9:03 a.m.

Following this. Seen the stuff in the store and very interested myself. This is the stuff that seems like bedliner for your deck right?

02Pilot
02Pilot HalfDork
4/20/14 9:08 a.m.

I can't speak to the products you mentioned, but I will say that if you're willing to use a semi-transparent stain, I have found no better option than Wolman's F&P. It behaves more like and oil-based stain and seems to have a waxy component that protects really well. It will fade over time, but unlike paints and solid stains, it doesn't scratch or lift.

Regardless of what you use, I've found the best way to apply to horizontal surfaces is a disposable foam pad. I can't recall the name of the brand I've used, but they're green foam with a white fuzzy cover and fit into a red holder. Old wood will chew it up, but for a deck that small it won't be an issue.

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro UltraDork
4/20/14 9:43 a.m.

Schaeffers Deck Sealant is great: http://youtu.be/iz1p65NZYHw

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle Reader
4/20/14 10:45 a.m.

I had a good experience with "Deckover" at the house I sold last December. I did not get to see how long it lasted, but it was thick, it filled crevices on old treated wood, and it went on pretty easily (good coverage). YMMV

foxtrapper
foxtrapper PowerDork
4/20/14 11:29 a.m.

I would be very suspicious of the Behr product. In my experience with their other products like house paints and deck stains/sealers, they fail rapidly.

Graefin10
Graefin10 SuperDork
4/20/14 12:05 p.m.

I've never heard of it until now and I was getting ready to paint the decks. That seems to make more sense than painting. Painting needs to be done about every 2-3 years. I'll bet it's MUCH more expensive per sq. ft. though.

Glad you brought up the subject.

SnowMongoose
SnowMongoose HalfDork
4/20/14 12:53 p.m.

You people have ruined me.
Read the title as 'Dick Refresh' for a second.

Don't skimp on the paint if you go that route, I've been helping redo my parents deck every summer for the past decade.
(Granted it leads to the front door, so it's high traffic)

Ditchdigger
Ditchdigger UltraDork
4/20/14 1:04 p.m.
SnowMongoose wrote: You people have ruined me. Read the title as 'Dick Refresh' for a second.

F5..... F5..... F5....

This isn't working

moparman76_69
moparman76_69 SuperDork
4/20/14 1:39 p.m.

I thought it'd was bad to get bedliner on your deck.

turboswede
turboswede UltimaDork
4/20/14 2:13 p.m.
Ditchdigger wrote:
SnowMongoose wrote: You people have ruined me. Read the title as 'Dick Refresh' for a second.

F5..... F5..... F5....

This isn't working

That reminds me. The wife works as an surgery assistant and she mostly works on day surgeries and they are pretty routine things. However, Friday her last case of the day was a Russian gentleman who wanted to make his "deck" prettier (circumcision). He also was hitting on one of her co-workers pretty hard before he went under. Of course immediately after he woke up he checked under the blanket, of course it was all bandaged up. Some people are just vain and stupid, which can be entertaining in the right context :)

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy UberDork
4/20/14 2:56 p.m.

My exwife made me chisel up the concrete patio and install a deck. She's now gone, and the next step with the deck is to burn it and install a nice concrete patio.

I deeply regret staining the cedar on my deck. I'd have been way farther ahead to just let it age gracefully.

patgizz
patgizz PowerDork
4/20/14 3:37 p.m.

they have a rustoleum display at home depot. it is hideous and extremely thick/feels like sandpaper. looks like a really chunk sprayed in bedliner application.

Ditchdigger
Ditchdigger UltraDork
4/20/14 5:54 p.m.
patgizz wrote: they have a rustoleum display at home depot. it is hideous and extremely thick/feels like sandpaper. looks like a really chunk sprayed in bedliner application.

As ugly as it is it looks like it effectively deals with my main complaint about decks. That E36 M3 is slippery. Here in the PNW a deck is pretty much lethal for most of the year. A slight sprinkle and BAM! skating rink. A mild autumn or spring and the algae turns it into something resembling the highly polished and waxed surface of a bowling alley.

I too tore out my deck and never regret it.

Rusnak_322
Rusnak_322 Dork
4/20/14 8:02 p.m.

Those chemicals suck. I tried everything on the deck of my old house over the years. May as well pore a cup of vinegar in a bucket of water and then spray weed killer on all your landscaping.

Built my new deck out of teak with cedar rails.

Best is to rent a floor sander with a heavy grit pad, the random orbital, not the drum sander. Home Depot rents them by the 1/2 day and a few sanding pads are not too much. You can return the extras. Make sure you have all the nails set.

Use a hand sander in the corners and close to the house. Will make the deck not as slippery too.

drainoil
drainoil Reader
4/21/14 3:55 p.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote: and the next step with the deck is to burn it and install a nice concrete patio.

X2. I've really been considering tearing this thing down also. It's old yet structurally sound but the maintenance issue every year gets old quick. Plus keeping it shoveled every winter to keep weight off it, argh. Stamped concrete patio sounds like a future option with considerably less upkeep. Might just throw down some outdoor rugs to hide the ugliness until that day comes.

Thanks for the input.

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