Keith Tanner wrote:Fueled by Caffeine wrote: In reply to GameboyRMH: The cloud ain't the way for flight safety critical operations. Maybe other delta systems could go to the cloud but you'd be crazy to give that stuff to aws.I don't think he was suggesting the cloud, I think he was expecting a more distributed server framework.
Ding ding ding! 
I flew to China on Monday, and it was a mess. Fortunately, they did keep the international flights going on time. Connector flight to Detroit was cancelled, but they got me on a new one so no big deal.
Side note, this is my first trip to China, and it's not what I expected at all. I'm more or less in Shanghai and still trying to figure out where all the people are.
mtn wrote: Still better than Spirit.
I dunno! It was cramped, but our flight to Vegas and back on spirit went fine. Really didn't mind it at all, just narrow seating. And dirt cheap! I would use them again
If there wasn't some sort of fire or internal sabotage, I am betting on a hack into the systems. Our infrastructure is full of wholes. This, and the recent Southwest outage from last month may just be someone flexing their muscles....
Plus, a lot of these systems are older systems architectures that are being asked to do things they weren't initially designed for.
tin foil hat off
joey48442 wrote:mtn wrote: Still better than Spirit.I dunno! It was cramped, but our flight to Vegas and back on spirit went fine. Really didn't mind it at all, just narrow seating. And dirt cheap! I would use them again
I've flown Spirit for 1 trip. It involved 4 flights. It should have only inolved 3. The first 2 flights were delayed. The 3rd flight cancelled. Because the 3rd flight was cancelled, we needed the 4th flight, and because we needed to be back within 24 hours, we had to get a cab to another airport 90 miles away. That 4th flight was fine, but I shouldn't have needed it.
Wxdude10 wrote: I am betting on a hack into the systems. Our infrastructure is full of holes. Plus, a lot of these systems are older systems architectures that are being asked to do things they weren't initially designed for.
These problems will only be more common. They cannot be fixed with labor. They need smart people to address them, and they need those smart people to be respected and listened to. Many of those smart people are kids in hoodies who laugh at huge companies being taken down by amateurs. The reason they don't work for those companies? They also laugh at the fact that companies want to pay data and system security professionals peanuts compared to Top Brass, when it is those kids in hoodies that could protect potentially millions of dollars.
In reply to mtn: that does suck. We only had non stop flights to Vegas. Jumped on the plane in Michigan and jumped off in Vegas. No issues other than being cramped, which I expected. I guess it's hit or miss.
joey48442 wrote: In reply to mtn: that does suck. We only had non stop flights to Vegas. Jumped on the plane in Michigan and jumped off in Vegas. No issues other than being cramped, which I expected. I guess it's hit or miss.
In reality it is fine--just check to see if they have more than one flight a day to the particular city. Chicago to Vegas is probably pretty safe. And make sure you aren't routed through Atlantic City, because Spirit is teh only berkeleying airline at that particular airport.
I was trying to get to Dallas Monday at 8:00AM and saw this unfolding at the ATL airport. It quickly became evident that I was going to miss my 10:00AM meeting in Dallas so I left and went in to work. My flight was eventually cancelled and I kept up with the meeting via phone. For me it wasn't that big of a deal although I feel for those who really had to be somewhere - funeral, wedding, major vacation.
Last night the CEO sent me a generic "I'm so sorry" letter that was in the voice I would have used when my mom told me to "apologize to your brother" when I was 10. He did include 20,000 FF miles added to my account. That part was nice but a bit lean in my opinion for the royal screw up. 20k won't get me a round trip to anywhere I want to go most of the time. I'll take it though 
Scott
Delta has caused me problems several times in my life including making me miss my Grandmother's funeral because the plane broke. They've also left me stranded at the Syracuse NY airport overnight. My flight was delayed and the people I was meeting who were flying in from Florida were further delayed so I had to wait. I also work for the power company that Delta tried to blame this mess on. Delta can kiss my ass.
mapper wrote: Delta has caused me problems several times in my life including making me miss my Grandmother's funeral because the plane broke. They've also left me stranded at the Syracuse NY airport overnight. My flight was delayed and the people I was meeting who were flying in from Florida were further delayed so I had to wait. I also work for the power company that Delta tried to blame this mess on. Delta can kiss my ass.
To be fair, they didn't blame your power company; they blamed a power outage. Which is true since they switched over to their backup generator for routine testing and it caught fire, taking out both sources. I'm more curious why they didn't have a redundant data center as emergency fallback.
joey48442 wrote:mtn wrote: Still better than Spirit.I dunno! It was cramped, but our flight to Vegas and back on spirit went fine. Really didn't mind it at all, just narrow seating. And dirt cheap! I would use them again
Sprint had their bad day, too. Just like Jet Blue, Northwest, United, American, etc. I can't recall any airline not having a really bad day, once.
We fly a lot, and so far, have not had a bad day since the storm day on Northwest (mostly NW and then Delta).
And most of the late departures are made up in the sky.
This shows how thin the margin for error is for the airline industry. Small glitches turn into HUGE problems.
GameboyRMH wrote:Keith Tanner wrote:Ding ding ding!Fueled by Caffeine wrote: In reply to GameboyRMH: The cloud ain't the way for flight safety critical operations. Maybe other delta systems could go to the cloud but you'd be crazy to give that stuff to aws.I don't think he was suggesting the cloud, I think he was expecting a more distributed server framework.
I thought it was because they had planes
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