Do you ruin movies for yourself or others?

I have caught myself lately while watching a movie, finding things that really couldn't happen and saying out loud that it could never happen. I know movies are fictional, but I see what they do just to make some eye candy for the big screen and I get a little annoyed. It annoys my wife too. She just looks at me and says "but you have to admit it looked cool."

I also want to know what part of "Based on a true story" is based on a true story. I just watched the movie Unstoppable and it said it was "Based on a true story". Ok, what part? The part that the locomotive left under power without an engineer? Sure I heard that story a few years ago, but they were able to stop that train not too far from where it took off. Other than that I didnt hear about anything else that was in the movie.

I hate most of todays movies. The, as you call it, "eye candy" has ruined it. If a stunt can't be preformed by stunt people don't put it in the movie. Watching people, cars, bullets, and whatever crap they come up with fly through the air in a completely impossible fashion drives me nuts. Hate it. Bring back the stunt guy and the model builder.

I try to watch TCM for my new old movies. The plot on newer movies is such BS anymore.

It's called "suspension of disbelief"

What a proper director/producer is supposed to do is make something seem plausible, which is HIGHLY dependent on what type of film/genre you are working with. It seems that they have forgotten that nowadays and just go straight for overblown stupidity "that will never work" crap.

FYI: That's what I've read, I know nothing about movies besides liking them

I was once at a Q&A session with a Star Trek writer, and one guy tore a strip off him because "There is no way you could ever survive a transporter beam, and if you did, your memory wouldn't."

He needed to suspend his disbelief.

Also- my personal little hate is for the previews that tell you how the story ends.

I've seen too many people who seem to have the opposite problem, believing everything in the movie. I remember seeing the movie "Stealth" just because I needed to kill a few hours on the road before an appointment. It's a turd of a movie that no one should ever see. I remember the mouth-breathers in the theater reacting to a scene in which a sniper shoots a guy from 9 miles away or something. "Dude! You see that! Oh my God, that guy must be an awesome shot! Can you believe he made that?"

It's not a documentary, guys. He made the shot because the writer wanted him to.

Will wrote: I've seen too many people who seem to have the opposite problem, believing everything in the movie. I remember seeing the movie "Stealth" just because I needed to kill a few hours on the road before an appointment. It's a turd of a movie that no one should ever see. I remember the mouth-breathers in the theater reacting to a scene in which a sniper shoots a guy from 9 miles away or something. "Dude! You see that! Oh my God, that guy must be an awesome shot! Can you believe he made that?" It's not a documentary, guys. He made the shot because the writer wanted him to.

Maybe you're thinking of "Shooter", a dubious mix of "JFK" and "The Manchurian Candidate". "Stealth" was a mongrel from the mating of "Top Gun" and "2001: A Space Odyssey".

And, yes, suspension of disbelief is required for most anything these days.

I'm more willing to suspend my disbelief for a transporter beam than I am for a 6 shooter that shoots eleventy-billion times without reloading. "See, we can overcome physics with futuristic engineering" is somehow easier for me to enjoy than somebody managing huge feats of impossible with a revolver I've shot before.

What really gets me irritated is when they play the wrong engine noise for a car. I can't remember what movie it was, but they overdubbed what sounded like a 4 banger onto a car that supposedly had a big v8 in it.

(edit: I've heard it said that when the sound guys do their job right, nobody really notices, since it just kind of helps the immersion, but when they get it wrong, it kills the experience. I think I agree with that.)

Brett_Murphy wrote: What really gets me irritated is when they play the wrong engine noise for a car. I can't remember what movie it was, but they overdubbed what sounded like a 4 banger onto a car that supposedly had a big v8 in it.

They did it right on Gumball Rally. On the other hand, anything Fast and Furious is so wrong as to be laughable.

Hollywood screws up car stuff all the time, and I almost always catch it immediately, and of course I have to tell the person I am sitting next to, whether they want to hear it or not.

I heard the wrong sound dub in Taken. Liam Niesen is leading a chase in a Jeep Cherokee and the baddies were in a ML350. The Cherokee had exactly the same V8 sound as the ML. Its laughable. Rest of the movie was good though.

About the only movie I have seen lately that was decent was "We are Marshall", outside of the animated Pixar movies.

But as to ruining movies, how can you ruin the ending to a good ole porn flick?

My girlfriend hates bringing me to movies. I have: a knowledge of physics/science and a degree in English. So I can figure out what couldn't possibly work and am able to predict most plots about 20% of the way through. Oh, and I can't stand inane stupidity.

Salanis wrote: Oh, and I can't stand inane stupidity.

"Let's stand here extra long to mourn the death of insert important to main character person here"

"Oh E36 M3, they caught up to me?!"

Honestly, if I was getting chased by alien mutant zombies from gracdgejoi sector, the last damn thing I'd care about (when running) is who died!

I want a computer that makes little beeping and clicking noises when it thinks and searches. Everyone in Hollywood has one, why can't I?

GRM:

Home of the miserly old crumudgeons with a disdain for anything produced after 1989.

Streetwiseguy wrote:

Brett_Murphy wrote: What really gets me irritated is when they play the wrong engine noise for a car. I can't remember what movie it was, but they overdubbed what sounded like a 4 banger onto a car that supposedly had a big v8 in it.

They did it right on Gumball Rally. On the other hand, anything Fast and Furious is so wrong as to be laughable.

Tokyo Drift was good from a sound perspective... Funny, the more i think about it, even though it has a laughable plot, it's really ended up being the only one of the franchise worth a E36 M3.

When I was a little kid, watching the Wizard of Oz, I made it a point to tell my sister that those are not really Munchkins. They are just midgets in costumes. I also pointed out that there was a girl inside the easter bunny.

I guess I am that guy.

oldsaw wrote:

Will wrote: I've seen too many people who seem to have the opposite problem, believing everything in the movie. I remember seeing the movie "Stealth" just because I needed to kill a few hours on the road before an appointment. It's a turd of a movie that no one should ever see. I remember the mouth-breathers in the theater reacting to a scene in which a sniper shoots a guy from 9 miles away or something. "Dude! You see that! Oh my God, that guy must be an awesome shot! Can you believe he made that?" It's not a documentary, guys. He made the shot because the writer wanted him to.

Maybe you're thinking of "Shooter", a dubious mix of "JFK" and "The Manchurian Candidate". "Stealth" was a mongrel from the mating of "Top Gun" and "2001: A Space Odyssey". And, yes, suspension of disbelief is required for most anything these days.

I assure you, I'm thinking of Stealth. One of the pilots gets shot down, then the sniper makes the shot. I'd be really happy if I could forget this turd, but I can't.

Will wrote: It's not a documentary, guys. He made the shot because the writer wanted him to.

Hahaha! I saw some movie about assassins that can curve bullets at will and do so even when they have a straight shot. Almost every single thing about the movie was complete, physically impossible E36 M3 up to and including strapping remote detonated explosives to 10000 rats.

I am sure that there were at least a few idiots at the range trying to curve bullets after that flick.

z31maniac wrote: GRM: Home of the miserly old crumudgeons with a disdain for anything produced after 1989.

And we'll kindly thank you to get off our lawn.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: When I was a little kid, watching the Wizard of Oz, I made it a point to tell my sister that those are not really Munchkins. They are just midgets in costumes. I also pointed out that there was a girl inside the easter bunny. I guess I am that guy.

I didn't realize the Easter bunny was a carnivore.

Toyman01 wrote: I hate most of todays movies. The, as you call it, "eye candy" has ruined it. If a stunt can't be preformed by stunt people don't put it in the movie. Watching people, cars, bullets, and whatever crap they come up with fly through the air in a completely impossible fashion drives me nuts. Hate it. Bring back the stunt guy and the model builder.

Yeah, I completely agree. Not that I was ever a HUGE fan of martial arts movies, but wire work has utterly destroyed that entire industry. I mean really, when you have to put Jackie Chan in a harness, you've jumped the shark.

I catch myself counting rounds pumped out of weapons during gunfights with no reloads. "That pistol doesn't hold 45 rounds, it's a .45! They got it all mixed up!" "The H&K MP5 doesn't hold 60 rounds, it holds 30, what are they doing?!"

Car nerd & gun nerd...

Don't get me started on the crap they do with cars in movies... Aren't they supposed to consult with experts when they make these things in order to make sure things are acurately portrayed?!

There are no new movies anymore. Just remakes. WTF is up with that? I've already seen the originals, why redo them?

Meh, I just watch movies for entertainment value and judge them on that. I do hate remakes though. I am looking forward to Sucker Punch.