Hard to prove 'practicable' from a coffin or an ash urn. That makes it sorta difficult to testify.
Hard to prove 'practicable' from a coffin or an ash urn. That makes it sorta difficult to testify.
Jensenman wrote: Hard to prove 'practicable' from a coffin or an ash urn. That makes it sorta difficult to testify.
Ain't a car made that can kill me.
rogerbvonceg wrote: Can someone explain to me why the 2-lane artery has no shoulder? Or lacks the capacity to handle non-motorized traffic (which takes up a lot less space than any 4-wheeler)? Or why the county spends so much money on nice trails and paved paths that don't really go anywhere?
Money, plain and simple. Assuming your trip to work is 10 miles, the cost to give you a 2 foot lane to get to work would be well over $200,000.00. That is just the cost of the asphalt, not including road base and buying right of way. Road paving costs are about $2.00/sq foot. Cost to add a 2 foot lane to all SC roads 1.2 Billion dollars. Never happen. Your friendly government officials would much rather piss that money away on companies that should have gone bankrupt. I will say this for the town I live in. When possible they do provide bike lanes and paths. Plenty of tax money to spend around here I guess.
BTW loved your fix up there. You must work for the news media. Their pretty good a editing thing to say what they want too.
Toyman01 wrote:rogerbvonceg wrote: Can someone explain to me why the 2-lane artery has no shoulder? Or lacks the capacity to handle non-motorized traffic (which takes up a lot less space than any 4-wheeler)? Or why the county spends so much money on nice trails and paved paths that don't really go anywhere?Money, plain and simple. Assuming your trip to work is 10 miles, the cost to give you a 2 foot lane to get to work would be well over $200,000.00. That is just the cost of the asphalt, not including road base and buying right of way. Road paving costs are about $2.00/sq foot. Cost to add a 2 foot lane to all SC roads 1.2 Billion dollars. Never happen. Your friendly government officials would much rather piss that money away on companies that should have gone bankrupt. I will say this for the town I live in. When possible they do provide bike lanes and paths. Plenty of tax money to spend around here I guess. BTW loved your fix up there. You must work for the news media. Their pretty good a editing thing to say what they want too.
Understood about money, but it wouldn't be spent just for me. "If you build it, they will come." The #1 reason people who consider biking to work don't do it is the perceived danger of "sharing" the road with motor vehicles. Still, I admit it would be a small portion of the population. Even in Portland (Bike Commuter Mecca), it's like 6% last I heard.
The benefits extend beyond the individual cyclists, as well, to people who may never touch a bike.
That said, I'm not much for bike paths on separate bases. That, to me, is horribly expensive. You're talking about half a million bucks per mile, as opposed to restriping a road to include bicycle markings at more like $15k-$30k per mile. Or we could spend the money on better education for all road users and get (maybe) an even better outcome. At any rate, the money spent building roads to accomodate all is returned in cleaner air, conservation of fuel, reduced congestion, cheaper gas (and fewer oil imports), and just generally happier communities.
I'm not in the media, but...well, sorry about that first post. I prefer to keep it civil but I needed to vent. Know that I don't condone what "that cyclist" did, nor your response. It was a bad scene and I'm glad nobody got hurt.
rogerbvonceg wrote: Understood about money, but it wouldn't be spent just for me. "If you build it, they will come." The #1 reason people who consider biking to work don't do it is the perceived danger of "sharing" the road with motor vehicles. Still, I admit it would be a small portion of the population. Even in Portland (Bike Commuter Mecca), it's like 6% last I heard. The benefits extend beyond the individual cyclists, as well, to people who may never touch a bike. That said, I'm not much for bike paths on separate bases. That, to me, is horribly expensive. You're talking about half a million bucks per mile, as opposed to restriping a road to include bicycle markings at more like $15k-$30k per mile. Or we could spend the money on better education for all road users and get (maybe) an even better outcome. At any rate, the money spent building roads to accomodate all is returned in cleaner air, conservation of fuel, reduced congestion, cheaper gas (and fewer oil imports), and just generally happier communities. I'm not in the media, but...well, sorry about that first post. I prefer to keep it civil but I needed to vent. Know that I don't condone what "that cyclist" did, nor your response. It was a bad scene and I'm glad nobody got hurt.
Yeah we all need to vent sometimes.
I agree, if there were more bike lanes it would be better for everyone. That being said, it is hard enough to get the roads paved in a timely fashion. I can't imagine that adding lanes would take priority. There are too few "voters" that would benefit. When it comes to having elected officials do things, projects to get them reelected are always on the top of the list.
The feds have blown their entire wad for the next few decades unless they are going to continue to run up the debit at record speed. With unemployment at record highs, and everyone spending less, the state budgets are hurting too. As hard as it is to imagine, we, the country, just can't afford it.
The only state I have heard that has a budget surplus is Alaska. Riding a bike up there probably sucks most of the year. The "Hick" Governor up there has 6 Billion in the bank as a rainy day fund. Who's the smart one now?
Bicycles don't belong in cities, especially during business hours. I know many here will disagree, and you are wrong. Nothing else on the planet has as much self centeredness and a more holier then thou attitude as an urban bike rider. Complain all you want about suv and hybrid drivers but none of them hold a candle to bike riders. Their lack of respect not only for the law but for the people around them, including pedestrians is astounding. Today we had yet another problem with a bike rider, this one ending with a trip to the hospital. A bus tries to pull into a bus stop. In spite of four blinking amber lights signaling his move to the curb, the all important cyclist begins to pass the slowing bus on the right. The bus sees him, and stops. as he rides past he tries to kick in one of the door window like his oh so cool friends tell him they always to to teach 60 feet of bus who really owns the road. In doing so he falls off his bike. The driver mistakenly opens the door to see in the asshat is ok, and gets beaten with the chain and lock by said asshat. I see alot of bicycle accidents at work, especially between bike and cars, and inspite of what these future piles of hamburger will say, they are wrong in the wrong the majority of the time, usually by passing a turning vehicle on the right, or ignoring a red light. You can't just follow the laws you want, no passing on the right and yielding the right of way need to apply to you as well.
I agree Wally. Completely. Riders that behave like that are a danger to everyone around them including themselves and they don't do any of the rest of us any favors by being asshats.
EastCoastMojo wrote: I agree Wally. Completely. Riders that behave like that are a danger to everyone around them including themselves and they don't do any of the rest of us any favors by being asshats.
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