Ask us in about two months.
Ask us in about two months.
Every time some body mentions cloud storage I think of when I was in a meeting with a senior manager who wanted to move all of our training materials to the cloud. He drew a globe on the white board and a pretty cloud above it with arrows pointing to it. He told us that is where the information needed to be. My immediate manager was also in the meeting and drew the same thing every chance he could to explain the project.
I've got a customer doing exactly that right now. Well, they're getting dedupe and compression with the gateway appliance we're selling them so it's probably more like 1-1.5 TiB. With 20mbps pipe, we're thinking a couple days now that the link is working properly.
Seriously just slap it in a raided drive and ship it out. We have like 15 petabyte right now allegedly across all of our systems being backed up in some fashion.
Not once.
I'm confused by people (not businesses) who have terabytes of stuff.
I have a 1 terabyte drive in this new desktop, and I'm using 85GB.
I could do all of this on a MicroSD card.
In reply to EvanR:
Torrents.
Hi-res photo/video editing. Uncompressed 22mp images are 60+ MB. 4K video uncompressed is about 29 GB/minute.
3TB? lightweights.
We've investigated it at work, last physical data count was 40TB. Thanks to medical imaging. If we move to the cloud, it will involve moving physical disks from our backups initially.
In reply to EvanR:
See porn at pump thread.
EvanR wrote: I'm confused by people (not businesses) who have terabytes of stuff. I have a 1 terabyte drive in this new desktop, and I'm using 85GB. I could do all of this on a MicroSD card.
Installs of modern games can be tens of gigabytes (may gaming PC's 600GB RAID array is almost full of them)...throw in some movies and TV episodes, full-system backups, you can eat it up easily. I have about 4TB of data on my home server, capacity is over 7TB. All your desktop data could fit on my phone.
logdog wrote: Every time some body mentions cloud storage I think of when I was in a meeting with a senior manager who wanted to move all of our training materials to the cloud. He drew a globe on the white board and a pretty cloud above it with arrows pointing to it. He told us that is where the information needed to be. My immediate manager was also in the meeting and drew the same thing every chance he could to explain the project.
LOL do they look like this guy?
Mitchell wrote: Hi-res photo/video editing. Uncompressed 22mp images are 60+ MB. 4K video uncompressed is about 29 GB/minute.
This seems like the only logical (legal) reason to have terabytes of stuff that needs to be backed up.
I have hundreds of gigs of PC games, but they are already backed up by Steam.
We are working on a CCTV system that requires cloud storage of video. Solar powered, 4G cell transmission to cloud storage. Neat system, but they charge 100.00 / month for storage. No option, they will not sell without connection. Camera sells for over 3000.00 each. Pricy, and I am not sold on the concept.
It's because the cell data cost is included in the storage cost, and cell data is insanely expensive.
ProDarwin wrote: I have hundreds of gigs of PC games, but they are already backed up by Steam.
There are some kinds of data loss that Steam doesn't work as a backup against: Losing control of your Steam account for any reason, or, theoretically, Valve going out of business.
GameboyRMH wrote:ProDarwin wrote: I have hundreds of gigs of PC games, but they are already backed up by Steam.There are some kinds of data loss that Steam doesn't work as a backup against: Losing control of your Steam account for any reason, or, theoretically, Valve going out of business.
True. However, what happens if you lose control of another cloud account, or the cloud storage provider goes out of business?
Also, I think a lot of steam games even stored locally won't work without a steam connection.
So, how do us plebeians (not businesses) back things up to a cloud system? I have at least a terabyte of images and videos from karting (we film almost every race). Right now, they're in a raid storage device at home. I'd like to be able to save it someone else "just in case". For example, I've got a Flickr account with a terabyte of storage. However, uploading it via my cable modem at home is painful.
Thought about trying to do it from work, but our connection (small office) isn't much better. Anybody know of a company where you can rent or use a T1 line and take your stuff in just to upload?
-Rob
RPi + 4tb external drive + BT Sync is the way I want to do it, just haven't ever gotten around to doing so.
You put another in your parent's/friend's house and partition the drives so each person is using the other's home for offsite backup. Hell, 5 or 10 people here could get together and basically create their own free cloud backup that way. Anyone else want in?
Like all cloud stuff on a slow connection, the initial upload is slow, but if it updates for 30 minutes every night while you sleep everything should be kept up to date.
ProDarwin wrote: RPi + 4tb external drive + BT Sync is the way I want to do it, just haven't ever gotten around to doing so. You put another in your parent's/friend's house and partition the drives so each person is using the other's home for offsite backup. Hell, 5 or 10 people here could get together and basically create their own free cloud backup that way. Anyone else want in?
I've been thinking of doing the exact same thing (well, I already have a home server so no RPi) so you can count me in.
Edit: I think Tahoe-LAFS might be a better choice than BTSync, but same concept.
In reply to cwh:
PM me about that when you get a chance Chuck. I tried sending you a message but it bounced back.
Mike wrote: Snowball?
While I have no use for it, it was neat to learn that such a thing exists! Who knew? (well, except for Mike of course)
A lot of cloud providers will ship you a NAS box to ship back to them, same idea, Amazon's just made it a little more bulletproof and idiotproof.
Here's what I don't get about "the cloud"- why don't people just get storage at home?
I'm not comfortable having someone else store my files. It's not as if hard drives are that expensive. Heck, 6 years ago, my work team bought a 2Tb drive for our projects. I have to expect that more is available now.
If you need remote access- that's possible, too, with secure paths. Or at least as secure as the remote storage areas that are called clouds.
The biggest cloud out there is owned by the NSA and is in Utah.
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