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Conquest351
Conquest351 Reader
7/20/11 1:46 p.m.

We are in Stage 2 water restrictions at the moment. Just a short drive away, they are in Stage 4, about to be in Stage 5. Check out the article on Llano, TX...

No water = No bueno!

pinchvalve
pinchvalve SuperDork
7/20/11 1:49 p.m.

Water shortages and flooding are both a problem in the US. Seems like Mother Nature needs to get organized a bit!

Otto Maddox
Otto Maddox Dork
7/20/11 1:50 p.m.

In the scheme of things, those restrictions aren't that bad.

I like to wash my car but it gives me great pain to spend money on watering a yard that I don't want to cut once it grows anyway. On the other hand, I have neighbors that water every day whether we get tons of rain or we are in the midst of a drought with water restrictions.

z31maniac
z31maniac SuperDork
7/20/11 2:21 p.m.

I can't believe here in Tulsa they haven't already implemented restrictions.

It's been 100+ for three weeks and is going to continue that way for the next few weeks anyway.

Your grass is going to turn brown, quit wasting tens of thousands of gallons trying to fix it.

Grtechguy
Grtechguy SuperDork
7/20/11 2:22 p.m.

90% of the world is covered by seawater.....Damn-it!!! get the filtration systems working better!

triumph5
triumph5 Dork
7/20/11 2:38 p.m.

By using reverse-Osmosis, which is the way to extract fresh water from salt, your water bill would rival if not surpass your electric bill. It is not cheap to do on a large scale, and it has to be piped to the areas that need it. And there's more cost.

There is a large aquafir (sp) under most of the midwest that has been supplying the bread-basket grain areas of the country since farming was started out there. It's drying up, and that's going to make for a huge problem in about 20 years. Then, maybe desalination along the gulf coast will come one line. As far as I know, in the US, only one reverse-osmosis plant is in operation, it's in CA.

Hocrest
Hocrest HalfDork
7/20/11 3:28 p.m.
Dumb said: "I really need to let them let me keep watering, at least a little bit to keep some of the stuff green. I don't want people to get married in brown," said local hotel owner Phyllis Farr-Alexander.

Seriously?? They are about to run out of drinking water and this is her big concern? If it is that vital to her business, she can pony up the $$ to truck in some water from out of the area...

triumph5
triumph5 SuperDork
7/20/11 3:45 p.m.

I guess no one has told her to go out and buy some astroturf for the people in the wedding parties to stand on for pics. Or, the photog can insert said couples/parties into a beautiful background with that, what's it called, Photoshop....

Or, she can do what CalTrans does to a) hold back soil erosion until grass/brush grows b) hold the ground water in place: they spray paint the hillside green.

I would think her guests would be a little more interested in taking a shower before the wedding than having green grass.

Jake
Jake HalfDork
7/20/11 4:41 p.m.

Lots of michigan is having a hard time right now, economically speaking. Give it a few years. All that lake will come in handy.

mndsm
mndsm SuperDork
7/20/11 4:48 p.m.

Considering a bunch of MN is still flooded out from last weekends shenanigans, I'm not all that worried.

Conquest351
Conquest351 Reader
7/20/11 5:17 p.m.

I'm seriously considering starting a business for a little while taking out of work truck drivers and tanker trucks and making the trip to the flooded areas and sucking up some water to bring back to our area.

HiTempguy
HiTempguy Dork
7/20/11 8:08 p.m.
Conquest351 wrote: I'm seriously considering starting a business for a little while taking out of work truck drivers and tanker trucks and making the trip to the flooded areas and sucking up some water to bring back to our area.

In for being first in line investor

novaderrik
novaderrik Dork
7/20/11 8:32 p.m.
Conquest351 wrote: I'm seriously considering starting a business for a little while taking out of work truck drivers and tanker trucks and making the trip to the flooded areas and sucking up some water to bring back to our area.

i'm sure the EPA would find some reason to make your life a living hell..

there are places where it's illegal to store the rainwater that runs off your roof to use to water the grass later on..

Fit_Is_Slo
Fit_Is_Slo Reader
7/20/11 9:09 p.m.

Welcome to the future...

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
7/20/11 9:15 p.m.
novaderrik wrote: there are places where it's illegal to store the rainwater that runs off your roof to use to water the grass later on..

I really hope you are kidding? Why would that be illegal? I understand it being illegal to drink.. but to water your lawn?

griffin729
griffin729 HalfDork
7/20/11 9:57 p.m.
mad_machine wrote:
novaderrik wrote: there are places where it's illegal to store the rainwater that runs off your roof to use to water the grass later on..
I really hope you are kidding? Why would that be illegal? I understand it being illegal to drink.. but to water your lawn?

Asphalt content of the shingles?

donalson
donalson SuperDork
7/20/11 10:23 p.m.
mad_machine wrote:
novaderrik wrote: there are places where it's illegal to store the rainwater that runs off your roof to use to water the grass later on..
I really hope you are kidding? Why would that be illegal? I understand it being illegal to drink.. but to water your lawn?

nope I recall reading about it while researching rain water reclamation systems...

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
7/20/11 10:49 p.m.
griffin729 wrote:
mad_machine wrote:
novaderrik wrote: there are places where it's illegal to store the rainwater that runs off your roof to use to water the grass later on..
I really hope you are kidding? Why would that be illegal? I understand it being illegal to drink.. but to water your lawn?
Asphalt content of the shingles?

Mosquito farms?

gamby
gamby SuperDork
7/21/11 12:54 a.m.
novaderrik wrote:
Conquest351 wrote: I'm seriously considering starting a business for a little while taking out of work truck drivers and tanker trucks and making the trip to the flooded areas and sucking up some water to bring back to our area.
i'm sure the EPA would find some reason to make your life a living hell.. there are places where it's illegal to store the rainwater that runs off your roof to use to water the grass later on..

Jeez--our local utility company provided rainwater storage barrels last year.

I let my lawn go dormant around this time of year. It's stupid to fight it. 95 tomorrow, 100 Friday, 95 Saturday. The sun wins.

novaderrik
novaderrik Dork
7/21/11 2:27 a.m.
donalson wrote:
mad_machine wrote:
novaderrik wrote: there are places where it's illegal to store the rainwater that runs off your roof to use to water the grass later on..
I really hope you are kidding? Why would that be illegal? I understand it being illegal to drink.. but to water your lawn?
nope I recall reading about it while researching rain water reclamation systems...

it has to do with the water levels of the local rivers and lakes and what not- if everyone stored all the water that landed on top of their house for personal use, then it would never make it to the rivers and back into the water table for everyone else to use.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt Dork
7/21/11 7:16 a.m.

If I lived out in the desert, I wouldn't have a lawn - I'd take this as a good excuse to just leave the area around my house filled with gravel, sand, and cacti, and never have to mow it.

I'll admit I am not sure if Llano is actually in the desert or not.

RossD
RossD SuperDork
7/21/11 7:27 a.m.
racinginc215 wrote: MEANWHILE IN MICHIGAN.

Ummm...Who colored this map? Since when is Door County and Washington Island part of Michigan? Everyone in Wisconsin knows that Door County belongs to FIBs (i.e. Chicagofolk)

ppddppdd
ppddppdd Reader
7/21/11 7:39 a.m.
racinginc215 wrote: MEANWHILE IN MICHIGAN.

It's my responsibility to point out that, between the hunters and the people of Flint, Saginaw and Detroit, we're probably almost as well armed as the folks from western states. :)

ultraclyde
ultraclyde HalfDork
7/21/11 8:43 a.m.
Grtechguy wrote: 90% of the world is covered by seawater.....Damn-it!!! get the filtration systems working better!

for the win...

triumph5
triumph5 SuperDork
7/21/11 8:56 a.m.
Conquest351 wrote: I'm seriously considering starting a business for a little while taking out of work truck drivers and tanker trucks and making the trip to the flooded areas and sucking up some water to bring back to our area. Edit add: probably your quickest source of info on this would be to call a company that comes in with a tanker of water to fill a pool.

If it's for not for consumption, probably no EPA problems; human consumption, I would guess you'll face regulations very close to those for bulk milk trucking. Although, most milk plants homogonize at the plant, then directly package into the carton.

And the ICC might have a say or two, and cost per gallon to make a profit wouldn't be low. Then you have to get some kind of deal to legally obtain that water in the first place---and with states already fighting over water rights (hello, AZ, CA, NM, GA, TN, etc...), it's not going to be easy.

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