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DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade Dork
5/19/12 10:42 a.m.

Or otherwise rare cars that are disappearing according to their stats. It's an interesting list.

The List

2. 1963-66 Studebaker Wagonaire: Old station wagons are hot, but few Studebaker Wagonaires ever seem to surface. A pity, as they could be ordered with column shift manual transmissions and V-8s with four barrel carburetors. A unique sliding roof over the cargo area also meant that everything from surfboards to refrigerators could be carried inside.
oldtin
oldtin SuperDork
5/19/12 11:09 a.m.

Bavaria is on my list as a potential DD car. Had one in school many moons ago.

jrw1621
jrw1621 PowerDork
5/19/12 11:16 a.m.

Where have all the Plymouth Champ and Dodge Colts of this "twin stick" era gone?

fastEddie
fastEddie SuperDork
5/19/12 11:23 a.m.

That list is 2-3 years old, wonder how different it is now.

EricM
EricM SuperDork
5/19/12 12:57 p.m.

I shed a tear for the Fiero and x-11

bastomatic
bastomatic Dork
5/19/12 1:29 p.m.

If I drove a Fiero or Citation I don't think I'd be shopping Hagerty for insurance. It just wouldn't occur to me.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
5/19/12 2:33 p.m.

Possibly even rarer than a Monza, my dad had the badge-engineered Oldsmobile Starfire. If I remember correctly, it had a V6 and five-speed stick. Sadly, it's not to be confused with the original Olds Starfire.

It looked like this, but was silver.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
5/19/12 4:34 p.m.

A friend of mine had a Starfire exactly like the one in the ad. It had the 231 V6, I put plugs in it for her and the last one on the drivers' side required loosening the engine mounts and raising it ~4 inches for clearance. Later a GF had a Buick Skyhawk, same car with different badges. That one broke a frame rail. Don't ask me how it happened, she was not hard on cars.

mightymike
mightymike New Reader
5/19/12 4:54 p.m.

In reply to jrw1621: Those turbo Colts were a blast to drive!

Woody
Woody UltimaDork
5/19/12 4:56 p.m.

I saw a Studebaker Wagonaire on the road yesterday. Not even at a car show, the guy was just hauling stuff to the dump.

EvanB
EvanB UltraDork
5/19/12 5:03 p.m.
David S. Wallens wrote: Possibly even rarer than a Monza, my dad had the badge-engineered Oldsmobile Starfire. If I remember correctly, it had a V6 and five-speed stick. Sadly, it's not to be confused with the original Olds Starfire. It looked like this, but was silver.

There is one of those in my town. It appears to be more rust than car.

mmosbey
mmosbey Reader
5/19/12 6:27 p.m.

Hyundai Excel. I saw one six months ago in running condition.

mrhappy
mrhappy HalfDork
5/19/12 6:31 p.m.

I know where a first gen impulse is. It looks to be in nice shape.

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade Dork
5/19/12 6:44 p.m.

Someone here in town has a early 80's Isuzu mini-truck, diesel powered. If it's not restored, it's in mint condition.

RexSeven
RexSeven SuperDork
5/19/12 7:00 p.m.

Here are a couple of follow-up articles:

http://www.hagerty.com/classic-car-articles-resources/Features/News/All-Articles/2010/01/18/Readers-respond-to-Threatened-and-endangered-list

http://www.hagerty.com/classic-car-articles-resources/Features/More-Articles/Car-Profiles/All-articles/2010/02/18/Threatened-Endangered-and-Extinct-Cars-Part-II

The second article mentions a Ford EXP forum, which further proves that there are fanbases out there for EVERY car.

wlkelley3
wlkelley3 Dork
5/19/12 9:19 p.m.

The only issue I see with Hagerty's list is it is based on their records of what they insure. I see cars they list as extinct on the road often but since they are driven regularly the don't have classic insurance on them. I know people that have classic cars and treat them as classics - driven occaisonaly but the owners have never heard of classic insurance so their cars are on their regular car policy. I know others with classic cars that don't want to put up with classic insurance restrictions and insure their cars on their regular policy also. I have a friend with a restored 55 Chevy convertible that is basically a trailer queen and he didn't know about classic insurance until I told him. He's been into classic cars longer than I have.

mightymike
mightymike New Reader
5/20/12 8:30 p.m.

The Hagerty “Endangered” List Cars originally built in numbers greater than 10,000 of which Hagerty insures fewer than 15

  1. 1971-76 Mercury Capri: The Capri was Ford of Europe’s answer to the Mustang. Like the Mustang, it was built on rather ordinary sedan underpinnings but the result was handsome, well made and, in the case of the V-6 powered cars, fast. It was quite popular in the early 1970s, selling more than 100,000 units in its first two years. Where they all went is anyone’s guess.

I wonder why my 1977 Capri is not listed as endangered?

wlkelley3
wlkelley3 Dork
5/20/12 8:49 p.m.

They insure more than 15 1977 Capri's, I guess.

ScottRA21
ScottRA21 Reader
5/21/12 3:43 a.m.

Wonder if they really insure more than 25 "Opel by Isuzu"/Buick Opels?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVPIPeIA3qc

IE: A Opel Kadett C, Holden Gemini, South American Chevrolet Chevette.

God I want one.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado PowerDork
5/21/12 12:25 p.m.

My "Bavaria" trim level E3 was one of my favorite cars ever. It died from the tinworm. Buddy of mine raced a V6 Monza in SCCA ITA..was crazy fast, but wore out tires fast (weight). He'd be running in the top three and start sliding down the order about half-way through the race.

IIRC, a Citation X-11 won an SCCA Showroom Stock Nat'l Championship--but it had the Heinrocket at the wheel.

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
5/21/12 12:49 p.m.

I'll have to insure the Scirocco with Hagerty to get it off the "endangered" list :

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/project-cars/1976-152-scirocco/get-leisure-suit-out-disco-never-dies/

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado PowerDork
5/21/12 5:24 p.m.

In reply to Joe Gearin:

Yeah, I laughed at one of the comments on the original article about the Mk.1 Scirocco--somebody said VW should make a "retro" version, like the New Beetle/Camaro/T-Bird/Challenger/etc.

Look at this one close enough, and you'll see they (VW) actually tried it. Great cars, but a marketplace bomb.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/friedgreencorrado/PA070436.jpg

EDIT: I want a Mk.1 Scirocco very, very much. Saw one on the lot when I was a teen, the urge never went away.

Maroon92
Maroon92 MegaDork
5/21/12 5:49 p.m.
friedgreencorrado wrote: IIRC, a Citation X-11 won an SCCA Showroom Stock Nat'l Championship--but it had the Heinrocket at the wheel.

That it did. Heinrocket told me that the X-11 was the car that got him into motorsport altogether. He was doing chassis development for that car at GM at the time.

Javelin
Javelin UltimaDork
5/21/12 6:07 p.m.
RexSeven wrote: The second article mentions a Ford EXP forum, which further proves that there are fanbases out there for EVERY car.

Not only did I used to own an EXP, I thought it was actually cool looking AND I was a member of that forum. I got the car for free and gave it to a friend's mother for the cost of the title transfer. That was ~7 years ago. They still have it with zero maintenance. I'd be lying if I said I didn't want it back

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
5/21/12 6:22 p.m.
mightymike wrote: The Hagerty “Endangered” List Cars originally built in numbers greater than 10,000 of which Hagerty insures fewer than 15 1. 1971-76 Mercury Capri: The Capri was Ford of Europe’s answer to the Mustang. Like the Mustang, it was built on rather ordinary sedan underpinnings but the result was handsome, well made and, in the case of the V-6 powered cars, fast. It was quite popular in the early 1970s, selling more than 100,000 units in its first two years. Where they all went is anyone’s guess. I wonder why my 1977 Capri is not listed as endangered?

Wasn't the 1977 Capri called the Capri II? Maybe that's where the difference is. A friend used to have one, it had a V6 and automatic, it was definitely a Capri II but I do not recall what year model it was.

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