Salanis wrote: No wonder incumbents always win, they can just say, "Well, I don't know why you'd want to vote for the other guy. His own people think he's an idiotic p.o.s. that isn't fit to run the country."
That only works when the incumbent is perceived as having done a good enough job come election time.
The jury still has a year to continue deliberations and review some compelling prosecutorial evidence.
oldsaw wrote:Salanis wrote: No wonder incumbents always win, they can just say, "Well, I don't know why you'd want to vote for the other guy. His own people think he's an idiotic p.o.s. that isn't fit to run the country."That only works when the incumbent is perceived as having done a good enough job come election time. The jury still has a year to continue deliberations and review some compelling prosecutorial evidence.
i.e the corporate media campaign against Obama that started as soon as he took office that so much money was spent on seems to be working.
In reply to Snowdoggie:
You mean the corporate media that invested so much to get him elected in the first place?
oldsaw wrote: In reply to Snowdoggie: You mean the corporate media that invested so much to get him elected in the first place?
People watch whatever confirms their own biases. Here in Alabama, it seems like every house I walk into has the TV tuned to FOX News. I imagine in California, it is just the opposite.
In any case, Cain is done. He was nothing but a sideshow anyway.
Otto Maddox wrote: In any case, Cain is done. He was nothing but a sideshow anyway.
I still doubt this.
In reply to tuna55:
If I was betting, I'd put my money on Romney for the nomination. What about you?
oldsaw wrote: In reply to Snowdoggie: You mean the corporate media that invested so much to get him elected in the first place?
I thought Rupert Murdoch was a Hillary supporter.
Otto Maddox wrote: In reply to tuna55: If I was betting, I'd put my money on Romney for the nomination. What about you?
Like I said, the backroom deals have already been made.
Otto Maddox wrote: In reply to tuna55: If I was betting, I'd put my money on Romney for the nomination. What about you?
I would, too, but I don't see his support lagging a ton.
Otto Maddox wrote: ...every house I walk into has the TV tuned to FOX News. I imagine in California, it is just the opposite....
Not really a good generalization. I will remind you that California (supposed liberal bastion) has voted against gay marriage rights, but seems to fine with how Kim KardASSian is "protecting marriage".
In reply to aircooled:
How about every republican house I walk into has the TV turned to FOX News, every democrat's house, just the opposite.
Otto Maddox wrote: In reply to tuna55: If I was betting, I'd put my money on Romney for the nomination. What about you?
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/south_carolina/election_2012_south_carolina_republican_primary
Otto Maddox wrote:oldsaw wrote: In reply to Snowdoggie: You mean the corporate media that invested so much to get him elected in the first place?People watch whatever confirms their own biases. Here in Alabama, it seems like every house I walk into has the TV tuned to FOX News. I imagine in California, it is just the opposite. In any case, Cain is done. He was nothing but a sideshow anyway.
CNN has really turned on Obama now. The Kardashians get better coverage from them.
In reply to tuna55:
I am more interested in your personal opinion. I can look up the betting odds for the general public - according to Intrade Romney has 68.5% chance of winning the nomimation. Cain is 4th at 7.0%.
Snowdoggie wrote:oldsaw wrote: In reply to Snowdoggie: You mean the corporate media that invested so much to get him elected in the first place?I thought Rupert Murdoch was a Hillary supporter.
Just as much as Immelt, Sulzberger and Redstone were supporting McCain.
Otto Maddox wrote: In reply to tuna55: I am more interested in your personal opinion. I can look up the betting odds for the general public - according to Intrade Romney has 68.5% chance of winning the nomimation. Cain is 4th at 7.0%.
Thanks. I already agreed with you above, I think, unfortunately, that Romney will get the nod. I will not vote for either major party for President if that happens.
In reply to tuna55:
Missed that. Sorry. Romney vs. Obama does not excite me either. I've voted in every presidential election starting in 1988, so I guess I'll find someone to vote for this time too.
Otto Maddox wrote: In reply to tuna55: Missed that. Sorry. Romney vs. Obama does not excite me either. I've voted in every presidential election starting in 1988, so I guess I'll find someone to vote for this time too.
I feel like Romney is just getting shoved down our throats by the elite.
The corporate media is trashing Obama and ignoring Ron Paul. Any Republican who challenges him gets struck down. The back room deals have been made.
I wonder if I should even bother to vote this time.
tuna55 wrote:Otto Maddox wrote: In reply to tuna55: I am more interested in your personal opinion. I can look up the betting odds for the general public - according to Intrade Romney has 68.5% chance of winning the nomimation. Cain is 4th at 7.0%.Thanks. I already agreed with you above, I think, unfortunately, that Romney will get the nod. I will not vote for either major party for President if that happens.
I will not be voting for the president. I'll worry more about the state process as I'm sure we all know how the presidential voting system works.
Uh oh. Looks like a third women came forward. Could this be another Bill Clinton or Tiger Woods?
http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-third-worker-says-harassed-cain-195748722.html
Otto Maddox wrote: People watch whatever confirms their own biases. Here in Alabama, it seems like every house I walk into has the TV tuned to FOX News. I imagine in California, it is just the opposite.
As in any other channel?
HA! I'm totally a Herman Cain fan now - CNBC just played a clip of him singing at some meeting. He's doing Imagine, but the opening lyric was "Imagine there's no pizza. I couldn't if I tried".
That's really neat! Gotta like the guy just for that. If our CEO did something like that he'd earn my undying support. Go Herman Cain. Nice to see one of these guys who doesn't take himself too seriously.
Just some inappropriate remarks, but dthe numbers do seem to be heading in a Tiger Woods direction.
Otto Maddox wrote: females four and five Just some inappropriate remarks, but dthe numbers do seem to be heading in a Tiger Woods direction.
You made me LOL. Hopefully he doesn't get anything like this.
Yeah. They are coming out of the woodwork now.
Cain is toast.
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