Homes and cheap expensive appliances suck.

Javelin wrote: Not my washer, I already told y'all I have an old-school top-loader (think Appliance Direct guy extolling the virtues of the porcelain tub). Every person I know that has a front-loader *hates* it though. Every brand, every price point, they all loathe them. I just happen to find it particularly hilarious!

You must know some "interesting" people. Aside from a bad latch, which took about 30 minutes to repair, ours has been great and works as good or better than the old top loaders I've had in the past. I know this doesn't matter to you, but since you don't actually have one and I do, I refute your information as hearsay.

Just the fact that the effort involved in moving the laundry from washer to dryer is lessened is a nice touch.

5 years and no bad smells and clean clothes.

It's not hearsay, you can probably smell my sis-in-laws washer from your house. And they leave the damn door open anytime it's not actually running.

And yeah, there might be some people I know who like their front loader, but when over a dozen people I know in real life (and have been to their houses) complain about their washers, well, that's a pretty damn strong indication...

It doesn't matter one lick to me though. I own an old style washer/dryer on purpose. They're cheap, reliable, I am able to work on them completely, and they just flat out work. My clothes are clean, smell fresh, and don't wear/fade fast. Why somebody needs to spend $1000+ just to not have to bend back-and-forth (barring actual physical disability, of course) is beyond me. And I have a 6 month old. That wears cloth diapers. So I'm bending a lot.

Samsung Marie just got her a new Fridge /Stove /Washer /Dryer

Javelin wrote: Why somebody needs to spend $1000+ just to not have to bend back-and-forth (barring actual physical disability, of course) is beyond me.

Actually the front loaders use a ton less water and get the water out of the clothes a lot more effectively. You can save up to $200/year in water and energy usage from that. I know I have - my old machine used ass loads of water and wasted it all. I bought new ones since the old washer died and was a stacked unit (ie, couldn't replace just the washer) but the utility savings have almost paid for the replacement machine already.

It's also a nice bonus that the clothes come out cleaner, I can fit a ton more in each load, and the cycles complete faster.

Javelin wrote: In reply to Type Q: Okay, know "in person"

Fair enough. Now you know of someone who doesn't hate his front loading washer.

Honestly I am agnostic on the front vs top loading from a design/esthetic point of view. Like a lot of California homes, our washer and dryer are in the garage. What really like about the front loader is I could bolt a matching dryer on top of it and use half as much of my limited garage space for laundry machinery

dculberson wrote: It's also a nice bonus that the clothes come out cleaner, I can fit a ton more in each load, and the cycles complete faster.

My parent's bought a top of the line one and there is no way my clothes ever came out cleaner then the old top loader. A lot of times I would wash them twice.

In reply to dculberson:

We have a 150 gallon hot water heater, the aforementioned top-load washer, and a garden to water and never hit the minimum flat-rate water usage in our county.

I honestly think the "ton of water" used by old washers is people jamming the knob to "OMG Super load!!1!" when they're washing 3 pairs of jeans.

Javelin wrote:

failboat wrote: And Javelin thank you for bringing up Appliance Direct guy.....I had a LOL

Central Florida is the hot spot of awesome old-school commercials!

Imagine my amusement when I visited FL for the first time a few years ago. And I'm going back down in December so now I guess I have another thing to look forward to on my trip.

Ok.... Drain is unclogged and a new hot water pipe is fitted.

This is the pesky bugger that fills up and decides to quit letting water flow, also the PITA clamp on the upper left. Clamp was replaced with a good old worm clamp. Plus that POS is at least 18" inside the washer with plenty of sharp edges, as you will see later.

E36 M3 in the drain.

The awesome plumbing.

Injuries incurred from this mess.

Only bandaids available.

Ranger50 wrote: This is the pesky bugger that fills up and decides to quit letting water flow, also the PITA clamp on the upper left. Clamp was replaced with a good old worm clamp. Plus that POS is at least 18" inside the washer with plenty of sharp edges, as you will see later.

Anyone who does maintenance on a European car has a tool for that:

I can't imagine getting turbo hoses off in my TDI with it.

Good to hear it's fixed... maybe I'll take a look at that on mine.

Ian F wrote: Anyone who does maintenance on a European car has a tool for that:

I don't have one and don't intend to in the near future. I can say I never have to do any Euro car "adventures".

LOL! Fair enough. It's one of those epiphany tools that once you use one in an application where it it makes the task much easier - if not simply possible - you wonder how you lived without it.