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HiTempguy
HiTempguy UberDork
8/1/15 9:47 a.m.
Wally wrote:
mndsm wrote: Maybe we can take all the violent offenders and sex crims and put em on an island.
Tried that once.

It worked out fairly well, they produced productive offspring!

wbjones
wbjones MegaDork
8/1/15 11:31 a.m.
edizzle89 wrote:
wbjones wrote: I'm not posting this to start a fight, and I'm CERTAINLY not advocating for the rights to mess up kids by sexually assaulting them … or ANYTHING like that but lets assume for a moment that a person is convected of a crime … any crime … serves their time and is released …. haven't they taken their medicine and are free to go on with their lives … they've paid their debt to society but for sex crimes, regardless of how long you spend in prison (and here I'm assuming, not out on parole) shouldn't they be granted the same "continue with your life, such as it is" rights of other convicted felons ? otherwise the sentences should be life in prison, since that's what it amounts to even after they're out … if it's considered a mental disease, then shouldn't it be treated that way from the start … like other mental diseases ? like I said I'm not trying to start a fight on here and will come back and delete the post(s) if it turns ugly …. but would really like to hear folks opinions
i see what you are getting at but would you always trust the "if they are truely better now?" aspect? do you think drug dealers who get out always stop dealing drugs? do you think someone who was able to take another persons life wouldnt be willing to kill again if he really wanted to? do you think prostitutes wont go back to the corner after they get out? I am not saying that everyone who leaves prison will go back to there old way, sometimes people do learn there lesson and become a better person because of it. But when it comes to my families safety, especially my child, who would have no way of defending herself against an adult who has been proven (twice) to be the worst kind of human being, I would not put them in that situation.

that's my point .. poorly stated … and NO I don't believe that "they're all better now" … just that they have served their penalty as proscribed by law … but in the case of sex offenders they now pay for the rest of their life as opposed to other released felons .. so I guess I'm asking why we think this is right

and I DO understand the worry parents have for their children's safety … but I also think that we as a country shouldn't punish beyond what the courts proscribe … it's a conundrum that I'm actually more curious about than actually PO'ed about …

I'm not trying to force sex offenders (who are VERY likely to repeat) onto a neighborhood, but would like to see if there is a fair way to treat someone who's paid his (her) debt to society

wbjones
wbjones MegaDork
8/1/15 11:34 a.m.
HiTempguy wrote: In Canada, mental health related crimes can see you detained indefinitely until you are deemed better. You are then monitored very closely for years. Edit- I should clarify that my point is that just because you are a pedophile doesn't mean you have to sexually assault a kid. Just like a man who is into legal aged women doesn't have to rape them. If you do those things, its not because your mental condition forced you to, its because you are a f*&ked up individual. That E36 M3 doesn't change, especially pedophilia, it is a DISEASE and it CAN'T BE CURED. So if you are a pedophile who ACTS on your brain being screwed up, prior actions predict future behavior, so yes, you should not be "free".

in that case keep them incarcerated … life sentence without possibility of parole … sending them out into society with very little in the way of chances to support themselves, live by themselves doesn't seem right …

lepers colony maybe ?

wbjones
wbjones MegaDork
8/1/15 11:36 a.m.
Datsun1500 wrote: If he shows up on the site it means he registered that address as his address. If he wasn't allowed near a school, they would not have let him register that address. I'd check your State laws on that before assuming you can make him leave.

and even if there is no school there when he moves in … doesn't mean that one won't be built sometime in the future

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