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The0retical
The0retical Dork
2/3/17 9:23 p.m.

In reply to patgizz:

Still loud but it reduces the necessity of ear pro. I'd really like one for my deer rifle.

It's funny here in the US they are something only bad guys and crazies need. If you shoot without one in western Europe you're an shiny happy person.

Same with hunting air guns.

joey48442
joey48442 PowerDork
2/3/17 10:41 p.m.
Knurled wrote:
Osterkraut wrote:
captdownshift wrote: This is GRM, you could make your own that short if you wanted to.
Thanks to some weird laws, doing this yourself to a shotgun would create an NFA and require the tax stamp...
I don't get it either. I saw a short barreled shotgun on armslist last month and I had the same questions. Then again, Judges aren't classified as shotguns (I guess technically they have juuust enough rifling in the barrel to not be shotguns?) and there are a lot of short barreled rifles that are classified as "pistols". Still want me a Mare's Leg.

I find it funny when someone mentions a mares leg I automatically think of a tv show that takes place in space.

BrokenYugo
BrokenYugo MegaDork
2/4/17 2:06 a.m.
Knurled wrote: Still want me a Mare's Leg.

Let me enable that for you. You can get a Rossi for under $400 if you're cool with a blued reciever and .45LC.

Brian
Brian MegaDork
2/5/17 5:55 a.m.

This thread, along with considering a shotgun purchase with tax returns, has me thinking in depth on the subject. I like this gun and I'm glad it exists, but an 8 shot with a more vertical/conventional pistol grip gives you 2 more rounds and is maybe 3" longer LOA.

Knurled
Knurled MegaDork
2/5/17 6:47 a.m.
patgizz wrote: I don't want a silencer to do stealth kills on people, i want one so the dog won't freak out when i shoot raccoons in my garden. But, nope. Plus i want to see if they really go "pssh pssh" like the movies or if it's still kinda loud

I'm strongly pro-suppressor. Hearing loss sucks.

IIRC you need something in a subsonic .22 to be "silenced". I haven't heard it, but I was told by someone who has heard it that you mostly hear air. Not "quiet air", but more like an airsoft or maybe paintball.

Knurled
Knurled MegaDork
2/5/17 6:50 a.m.
joey48442 wrote:
Knurled wrote: Still want me a Mare's Leg.
I find it funny when someone mentions a mares leg I automatically think of a tv show that takes place in space.

I only said that so she could get behind you.

bigdaddylee82
bigdaddylee82 SuperDork
2/5/17 8:28 a.m.
stroker wrote: Y'know... that raises a question about the ATF. Ya think they'd seriously give someone a second bite at US vs Miller? Anyone know of a documented military application for a pistol grip-only shotgun in the last 70 years?

M26 MASS, available as an M16/M4 attachment (think M203 but a shotgun instead of grenade launcher) and standalone. I know that the civilian AOW version, M26-PDW-M1, is available as a pistol, but every picture of the standalone mil version I've seen has had a stock on it, not that I've seen that many nor do I have any military experience.

C-More does show the mil version on their website in Wrist breaker configuration though:

Ross413
Ross413 Reader
2/5/17 9:15 a.m.

Hearing Protection Act

It is sad that there are so many rules and misconceptions around suppressors... They make all firearms more enjoyable for the shooter and anyone around them.

Most NFA rules are stupid beyond all reason and should be dissolved.

Petition to repeal the NFA

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