The_Jed
HalfDork
8/25/12 10:22 a.m.
I'm not 100% sure of the year, they didn't specify in the ad, but I'm thinking it may be an '85. I'm hoping it's an '86 or newer for the multi-port F.I.
Opinions?
From my admittedly limited research it looks like a winner since I've been lusting after a 5.0 Mustang thanks to certain members of this board.
and that's kind of what it is...plus 8" of wheelbase...and about 1,000 pounds...![](/media/img/icons/smilies/googly-18.png)
Bill Blass edition?
Digital gauges?
I would stay away from one of those and opt for a Mark VII LSC or LSC-SE.
The_Jed
HalfDork
8/25/12 11:46 a.m.
I'm not sure. The ad doesn't mention mileage, year or whether it's an LSC, Bill Bass edition or just a base model. I called but there was no answer and the voice mail box was full. Thinking it's probably gone and they just haven't bothered to delete the ad.
Finally reached the owner and I'll be looking at it this Saturday at noon. Any suggestions on things to check or problem areas? According to the owner it's an '87 with "lots of miles" and might need restored.
So far my priorities are:
Transmission condition
Floor pan/ subframe rust or cracks
Air springs and pump
Engine
Suggestions?
Does anyone know if '79-'04 Mustang front seats will fit?
Just hope that it doesn't have the air $u$pension.
If the air springs haven't already been replaced by coil springs that is one of the things I plan to do soon after the purchase. ![](/media/img/icons/smilies/laugh-18.png)
oldtin
SuperDork
9/5/12 4:59 p.m.
Never thought of actually driving one - just think of them as a 5.0 HO source - the lincolns got the forged piston version and for most people - when the air suspension blows out - the cost to fix vs value equation puts good runners in the junk yard.
Am I mistaken in assuming that I could buy the coil spring conversion kit (springs + mounts) then hit the boneyard for some SN-95 struts and shocks and be good to go?
Yep, but I understand that the conversion kit is kinda pricey, I wanna say something like $750 but I could be wrong. I think the GRM Crapcan Lincoln thread might have some answers if you wanna take the time to search for it
I've read through the entire build, no search needed. The kits go from $270-$440 depending on what's included. I'm just a cheap bastard who likes to hit the junkyard instead of shelling out $$$ for new parts. That and I was digging for some more info from people who have been there and done that.
I'll read it again though, maybe I missed something.
I had an 88 LSC, and those are the models you want. The Bill Blass and base models are cushy and ugly.
Upgrades to the LSC (going off memory)
Analog gauges with a tach (no, you cant swap between Analog and Digital gauges easily)
Some of the nicest seats on the planet.
Better looking trim and wheels
Completely different suspension (sway bars, air bags are stiffer)
Sportier steering rack
Dual exhaust
16" factory wheels that look great
Until 89, only the LSCs had the 5.0 HO (Mustang motor)
89 and later, all Mark VIIs had the 5.0 HO, but it was always speed density instead of mass air like the later Mustangs
Other Mark VIIs had the Crown Vic 5.0 LO
Pop the hood and make sure you see this.
And not this.
![](http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/1847/961/4615480018_medium.jpg)
The HO means everything.
And I am sure this isn't an LSC, or its got the wrong wheels and no LSC badging.
This was my LSC (debadged of course)
![](http://www.widsm.org/cdwilliams/Lincoln/MyLSCSideRearShot01.jpg)
And with some Cobras and modified air suspension to give it a nice drop.
Highly suggest you fix and retain the air suspension, its great.
I was wondering what sort of wheels would look "right" on it and DAMN those Cobra rims look perfect!
I've got a set of the LSC wheels I'll sell cheap. Here they are on my 300zx, I tried them but the offset isn't quite right for the Z.
![](http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n267/hotrodhabit/zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz547860_3787140409086_1588748629_n.jpg)
I've owned three of those cars, a '88 and two '90s. I can change a front air bag in 30 minutes with a screwdriver while wearing a tuxedo, no big deal. The rear bags suck if the control arm bolts are rusted up. The biggest problem is the compressor, which usually burns out while the bags leak. I never liked coil spring conversions and don't endorse them due to how they mount to the lower A-arms (lack of a good spring pocket). Take extra care when messing with the air lines, they use a brass collar and push lock system. The good thing is that junk yards have no idea what the air system is and will sell you parts by the pound. I used to stockpile air lines, brass collars, solenoids, and air bags cause it was stupid cheap.
It is a Mustang without mass air. The transmission is an AOD, which is pretty solid. The seats bolsters will wear out, as will the center console. Find the nicest interior you can, especially the dash since parts are kind of a pain to find in good condition.
They are a salesman's car, super comfortable on long drives at highway speeds. Rock solid at triple digits (limited to 116 mph). Low 20s on the highway were easy, even with a 3.73 gear swap.
I loved mine and it saved my life. I was hit head-on by a drunk driver in a '97 F-150, combined crash speed of 80 mph. The truck took the hit worse than the car, even though the engine came through the firewall and shattered my leg.
Many, many moons ago I created a page to list my Mark VII knowledge: http://lsc.netherealm.net/markvii.html I don't have access to the server it lives on, so it hasn't been updated in a decade, but the info is still good.
An old g/f's dad had a Mark VII LSC when they were new. He enjoyed driving it. The car he had before that was a 12-cylinder Jaguar XJ-S. He enjoyed driving it when it was running.
That's all I've got. I've always thought they were cool cars.
Woody
MegaDork
9/6/12 3:20 p.m.
I was a gopher at a machine shop when I was 19. We had this seriously crappy old Chevy pickup that I used to deliver parts in. One day, a client was busting my boss' ass over the phone about the truck, so for the next couple of weeks, he had me making small deliveries in his new LSC. I was pretty happy about that.
He didn't have the badass Cobra wheels, though. They hadn't been invented yet.
Just be glad it's not the rare (but IMHO not rare enough) BMW turbodiesel version. OMFGWTFBBQ were those things ever slow and trouble prone. Only produced in '84-'85.
![](http://www.mustangscca.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/016.jpg)
I think Thunderbird suspension stuff will fit. Check behind me on that one, though.
There was a turbo diesel version for sale semi-locally and I was interested for a minute or two.
I'm still sifting through a lot of conflicting and vague info on the webz concerning what will and will not interchange between these and other Ford products.
Still not sure what FSB will fit and if the LoPo had forged pistons and a roller cam or even if it has a 7.5" or 8.8" rear. I'll find out about the rear end soon though!![](/media/img/icons/smilies/laugh-18.png)
Interchange? Most of ANY of the Fox supension fits. EXCEPT that you will NOT have the upper spring perches in the rear for regular old OEM coil springs. All M7 5.0's will be forged piston motors.
Rearend will be an 8.8. It will have 94-98 Mustang width axles.
Only reason to get a TD model would be it would be emissions exempt for any wild engine combination you can think of and afford.
i think i'll just leave this one here... http://houston.craigslist.org/ctd/3211281649.html
or, for the same money... http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/3249781416.html