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AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/16/23 10:28 a.m.
aircooled said:

In reply to SV reX :

It is interesting to note that Zoom is now requiring its workers to come into the office...ouch.

it's like rai-E-ain on your wedding day

jharry3
jharry3 Dork
8/16/23 10:30 a.m.

I've been working from home since March 2020. I don't even have an assigned office in our company building in Houston anymore.  I am very happy with this arrangement.

   For the last year I have to travel to our office in Metairie, La. for one week a month.    They come in the office 3 days a week.  Being around people is a pleasant break from working at home.

Toyman!
Toyman! MegaDork
8/16/23 11:00 a.m.
Toyman! said:

As to the WFH. You can't miss what you never had. I worked every day of the shutdown and worked inside hospitals and frequently covid wards through most of it as did the rest of the company.  

I would like to retract the above statement. I miss WFH for the same reason Wally does. Everyone that has transitioned back to the office can't drive for E36 M3. I would love it if they stayed home. 

In even worse news, school starts back next week. Traffic is sure to be even worse as all the distracted parents join the commute after dropping their little E36 M3head off at school.  

Yuck.  

CrustyRedXpress
CrustyRedXpress Dork
8/16/23 11:05 a.m.

I'm a hard-core remote worker and quit my job in 2018 because I wanted the ability to work remotely in the summers. My current company is making noises about some sort of back to office push. If they follow through I'll be gone in a heartbeat, likely to go freelance this time. 

I suspect this issue will become more politicized over time as it correlates heavily to having a college degree. It's also becoming a core identity for a lot of people (myself included).

It's definitely yet another way that knowledge workers are privileged in society and there are a massive number of things we as a society can and should do to make things easier for no-collar and blue collar workers. 

 

 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
8/16/23 11:27 a.m.

We (my company) worked from home 2-3 days per week before the pandemic. We've been WFH since March 2020, they closed our office in Oct 2021. I miss going into the office a few days per week. I miss getting to see my coworkers outside of the few lunches we do every other month. 

I work with a great group of people, so that's probably why it's a bit tough to not get to see everyone. 

fanfoy
fanfoy SuperDork
8/16/23 11:44 a.m.
Wally (Forum Supporter) said:

I missed the open roads from everyone else working from home. Everyone came back having forgotten how to drive. 

^^^^^^THIS. A million times this. God I miss the pandemic roads. They were bliss.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
8/16/23 11:50 a.m.

Boost_Crazy
Boost_Crazy Dork
8/16/23 11:53 a.m.

In my experience, there is a common factor in which jobs can successfully be transitioned to work from home and those that can't. Jobs where the worker has individual responsibilities and their own unique work load appear to transition well. Those that are part of a group with shared responsibilities or that need to collaborate on their work do not appear to be good candidates for work from home. Basically, if you have a shared phone number or mailbox you should be in the office. I work with dozens of businesses and it's painfully obvious which ones are struggling with work from home. But even with those positions that can be done from home, there often still needs to be some office time to collaborate with co workers. How often depends on the nature of the business. 

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
8/16/23 12:43 p.m.
Datsun310Guy said:
 
spitfirebill said:

my office stocks the cheapest, roughest tissue.

Saving money - goes right down to the bottom line and into your profit sharing or year end bonus. 

Sounds like our TP in college.  

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
8/16/23 12:49 p.m.

I worked a long term asbestos abatement job at a YWCA in Greenville SC.   We were supposed to work at night and the contractor was supposed to bring a portajohn.  After a few weeks, we were able to talk them into letting us work during the day and the workers could use one of their bathrooms.  The bathroom usage only lasted a couple of days.  There is no excuse whatsoever for not flushing after dropping a deuce.   And do you really have to pee all over the seat?  Really?       

bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter)
bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
8/16/23 1:18 p.m.

I was not sure what this thread was about, but since I am here, I really enjoy working from home, and I am astonished at how many men piss on toilet seats. I travel a lot and it seems like some kind of passive aggressive behavior or something.  I would assume they do not do it at home in their own space but in a restaurant or airport a switch gets tripped in their brain. I would like to cut each and every one of their dinks off with garden shears.

RozCougarMorbidcamp
RozCougarMorbidcamp HalfDork
8/16/23 2:40 p.m.

I worked in healthcare every day of the 'shut down'. Now that things are 'normal' I work in the same general field, but from home, for a company that is 99% remote. Some days I absolutely love it, but other days it's the hardest thing in the world to sit here when I know there are things that need to be done around the house. 

I don't, however, miss the commute that varied by the day between 20 minutes and 3 hours each way depending on that day's job. 

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
8/16/23 2:57 p.m.

I used to work with a lot of Indians.  No issues with cleanliness in the bathroom.... but the curry...   oh my.....

RX Reven'
RX Reven' UberDork
8/16/23 3:25 p.m.

 

In reply to aircooled :

Oh, the curry is an absolute pleasure compared to old heavy smokers that blow clouds of soot out.

I always imagine this going on in the next stall...

Old Time Trains

Edit - I guess it's actually more like this...

Toot........Toot.......Toot......Toot.....Toot....Toot...Toot..Toot.Toot....Poop - Poop!!!

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
8/16/23 4:34 p.m.
aircooled said:

I used to work with a lot of Indians.  No issues with cleanliness in the bathroom.... but the curry...   oh my.....

I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way, at a previous job, we had a lot of SE Asians on the production floor. We moved a couple of our microwaves down to their area because heating up fish in a microwave.........that's a stench you can't get rid of. 

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
8/16/23 4:38 p.m.

Fish in a microwave is a HUGE no-no at work.

Putting a CD disc in a microwave for 2 seconds or so... that was just good fun (makes cool lightning streaks in the metal layer of the CD).

We occasionally got the "popcorn in the microwave for 20 minutes" fire evacuations.  Smell was not nearly as bad of course.

Duke
Duke MegaDork
8/16/23 5:00 p.m.
KyAllroad said:

If I have to go in to work, so should everyone else (or us "essential" employees should get paid extra for actually going to work).

My wife and I had this conversation when one of her coworkers made that same point.

OK, so you have to go to work.  Guess what WFH people have to do that you don't:

  • Provide their own workspace
  • Pay for the internet and phone service making WFH possible
  • Pay for electricity to WFH
  • Pay for HVAC to make it comfortable to WFH instead of setting thermostat to unoccupied mode for 8-9 hours

So, yeah, I'm not seeing why in-shop folks should get extra money.

 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
8/16/23 5:13 p.m.
TJL (Forum Supporter) said:

also we had "the porcelin picaso" who never had a solid bowel movement in his whole life.  He also never cleaned up the bowl after it looked like a firecracker exploded in his turd. The "be-speckler". 

Yeah, we have 6 of us sharing a one-holer at work.  One guy does this, PLUS he ties up the only can for literally 45 minutes at a time.

If your stuff is soft enough that it sticks to the bowl under water, there ain't no way it took you 45 minutes to get the job done.

 

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/16/23 5:15 p.m.

As much as I loved WFH and it's still the norm for most of my company, it's interesting to be sitting on the other side working at a client site and I'm the one saying we need to have staff here to work on the next project.  At least some of the time. Oh, the irony... 

I work in the pharma industry, so I had this odd combination of WFH and being an "essential worker" who had to travel to the site to work on a vaccine facility. 

That said, I've been working on-site, 350+ miles from home since Oct 2022 and it looks like I'll be tere through Sept 2023.  When all of this is done, I do look forward to a few months of WFH. Or maybe a year... 

RX Reven'
RX Reven' UberDork
8/16/23 5:19 p.m.
Duke said: If your stuff is soft enough that it sticks to the bowl under water...

Essentially, Flex Seal for luddites.

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Duke
Duke MegaDork
8/16/23 5:19 p.m.
CrustyRedXpress said:

It's definitely yet another way that knowledge workers are privileged in society and there are a massive number of things we as a society can and should do to make things easier for no-collar and blue collar workers.

I'm struggling to understand how it would be feasible to fabricate and install, say, a sprinkler system from your house.

Or maybe I misunderstood your point.  That's always possible.

 

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
8/16/23 7:24 p.m.
CrustyRedXpress said:

I'm a hard-core remote worker and quit my job in 2018 because I wanted the ability to work remotely in the summers. My current company is making noises about some sort of back to office push. If they follow through I'll be gone in a heartbeat, likely to go freelance this time. 

I suspect this issue will become more politicized over time as it correlates heavily to having a college degree. It's also becoming a core identity for a lot of people (myself included).

It's definitely yet another way that knowledge workers are privileged in society and there are a massive number of things we as a society can and should do to make things easier for no-collar and blue collar workers. 

 

 

I'm with Duke. I'd really like to hear some of these ideas. 

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
8/16/23 8:45 p.m.

When I get to work from home, its because I'm unemployed.

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
8/16/23 9:00 p.m.
fanfoy said:
Wally (Forum Supporter) said:

I missed the open roads from everyone else working from home. Everyone came back having forgotten how to drive. 

^^^^^^THIS. A million times this. God I miss the pandemic roads. They were bliss.

Open roads and the complete lack of law enforcement let me cut an 85 mile commute to just under an hour. 

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
8/16/23 9:28 p.m.

All this WFH discussion and no mention of the wah wah breaks with the wife? 

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