I need a cyber private investigator

In reply to mad_machine :

I agree. It is not satisfactory. Doesn't mean I can explain why. 

And this is NOT harassment. It's life threatening. 

It comes down to how difficult it is to prove cyber crimes, and how law enforcement is prepared to allocate their resources. You might be able to show what IP address information came from, but you can't prove who was sitting at the computer typing. 

z31maniac said:

SVreX said:

In reply to AWSX1686 :

I didn't actually say I was only willing to acquire information legally. I said I needed someone who was willing to testify in court when we get to that point. 

I need to prove first that the perp is in violation of the restraining order. That converts it from a misdemeanor to a felony. 

But wouldn't any evidence obtained illegally be inadmissible in court? That kind of defeats the purpose, no?

I also didn't say I would attempt to admit illegal evidence in court. 

You are thinking too linearly. 

californiamilleghia said:

if he knows so much about you does he also know your user names on forums like this ?

I assume you changed all your passwords,  wiped  your computer , put a new hard drive in and started from scratch,

and get a better router with security features......

if he somehow had a keylogger on your machine he will know way too much already. 

if its also on your phone maybe change carriers ,

Make a list of things he might have access to and change them , kill off Facebook etc

Good Luck ,   

All good suggestions. All too late. Perp knows everything. 

Guys, I know you are all curious and want to help. 

I will not be sharing more details in this thread. 

The "why" questions, etc will not be answered. 

My thread title is pretty straight forward. 

There are legal tomes written on suppression of evidence rules. There are vast differences between a criminal case and a civil case. And different rules apply to law enforcement officers and civilians as to acquisition and admissibility of evidence. And keep in mind your fourth amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure primarily applies just to law enforcement.

Do they know your id here? I'm guessing so... which means any publicly posted help is going to be seen by them also, giving them the heads up on what you're up to.

Still doing the bulk of this from the employers place of business or has that changed? Has the escalation led to more sloppiness on their part in terms of covering their tracks?

Driven5 said:

Have you tried contacting any local news stations that might run one of those 'helping the people (our viewers) fight back against a system that is failing them' segments?  Or what about contacting your congressional representatives to try to see if they can help get the ball rolling on some type of action from law enforcement?  Pretty weak suggestions, I know, but about all I've got beyond that is calling the A-Team...Or perhaps simply employing similar tactics.

Perhaps worth a try considering what else has been tried so far, although they might not consider it newsworthy...this kind of story is tragically par for the course in cyberstalking. The sad truth is that the authorities don't treat even the most serious cases of cyberstalking all that seriously, even though it's relatively trivial stuff to trace from a technical standpoint - cyberstalkers operate brazenly in the open in ways that would get any website-defacer's front door busted down in a matter of hours.

Found a list of PIs with experience in cyberstalking cases here:

http://www.haltabuse.org/resources/investigators.shtml

Don't know anyone I can recommend myself.

The only help I can offer is to ask these questions to the circle of very close friends I hope you have that you know you can trust.

Anything on the internet is known to who you are trying to avoid.

I sincerely hope you can get this resolved.

Ovid_and_Flem said:

There are legal tomes written on suppression of evidence rules. There are vast differences between a criminal case and a civil case. And different rules apply to law enforcement officers and civilians as to acquisition and admissibility of evidence. And keep in mind your fourth amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure primarily applies just to law enforcement.

I'm missing what you are saying. Talk to me like I'm a 5 year old. 

In reply to SVreX :

I think he's saying that evidence collected by a civilian may not have to pass the same judicial or legal standards as when it's collected by law enforcement.

Sounds like the local FBI office is being let off the hook.  You are being threatened.  Your family is being threatened.  Your friends are being threatened.

Call the regional office of the FBI.  Explain what has happened, tell them who you talked to at the local FBI office and that you feel that they did not understand the seriousness of the threat.  Ask them the name of the agent they are assigning to investigate and prosecute these acts of terrorism and when you will be hearing from them.  Be clear that you are not going away and that you expect them to take action. 

Given the present situation with the FBI, as wrong as it actually is, it might be worthwhile to mention that you will be contacting ALL of the major news outlets and and sharing your experience - either positive or negative.  Also contact your Senator and Congressional Representative and ask them to contact the FBI and let them know that they are following the progress of the investigation.

You have to be the absolute biggest PIA the FBI has ever seen and you have to make it politically untenable for them not to pursue the case.

I had to do this in another context with a different state agency and that is what it took.  We lit so many fires under them, they had no choice but to address the issue.

Not to sound like a keyboard warrior but if you know who it is and more importantly WHERE he is, paying him a visit might be due.  I’m sure describing the hypothetical result someone like him could expect if they continue their actions should skate around laws regarding threatening someone.

Crappy situation, the FBI really should step up.

My personal thoughts on handling this are not forum appropriate, but when calling your local/regional/state law enforcement and representatives, remind them that this is an election year, and that the media will be hearing this story. 

Also, since it has crossed international borders, really stress the individual terrorism part, seems to be the only thing law enforcement gives a E36 M3 about these days. 

In reply to SVreX :

If you come into possession of incriminating evidence much different than LEO obtaining through a means that was obtained in violation of 4th amendment protection.

Not sure if advisable to try to strong arm local FBI agents.  

Biggest problem with cyber crime criminal prosecutions is exactly what you observed...how do you prove perp was actually one using his lap top or phone? That being said why I suggested civil case...Lower burden of proof.

You must have had some credible proof since you got a RO.

You got my digits if you need me.

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KyAllroad (Jeremy) said:

Not to sound like a keyboard warrior but if you know who it is and more importantly WHERE he is, paying him a visit might be due.  I’m sure describing the hypothetical result someone like him could expect if they continue their actions should skate around laws regarding threatening someone.

Crappy situation, the FBI really should step up.

You are assuming logic will make sense to this person. It won't. 

Ovid_and_Flem said:

In reply to SVreX :

If you come into possession of incriminating evidence much different than LEO obtaining through a means that was obtained in violation of 4th amendment protection.

Not sure if advisable to try to strong arm local FBI agents.  

Biggest problem with cyber crime criminal prosecutions is exactly what you observed...how do you prove perp was actually one using his lap top or phone? That being said why I suggested civil case...Lower burden of proof.

You must have had some credible proof since you got a RO.

You got my digits if you need me.

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And if the perp ups the attacks once you serve him a civil case, you know you have his attention

Did I read that this has been done from a place of business?  Biz owner/management helpful?  Sue them?

In reply to Justjim75 :

No, business was not helpful. Perp no longer works there. 

Can you go all 10th century and build a wall around the house, preventing all salt from getting in?

In reply to Robbie :

THAT I would like to do!

I'll bet I'd be the only GRMer  with a moat with real alligators!!

SVreX said:

z31maniac said:

SVreX said:

In reply to AWSX1686 :

I didn't actually say I was only willing to acquire information legally. I said I needed someone who was willing to testify in court when we get to that point. 

I need to prove first that the perp is in violation of the restraining order. That converts it from a misdemeanor to a felony. 

But wouldn't any evidence obtained illegally be inadmissible in court? That kind of defeats the purpose, no?

I also didn't say I would attempt to admit illegal evidence in court. 

You are thinking too linearly. 

I'm truly sorry Paul you are going through this. I don't get this statement. I'm not sure if you understand that if an illegal piece of evidence leads you to a legal one, it's still illegal. 

I suspect the reason LEO's aren't taking you seriously is because this has been going on for years and there has been no consequences. 

Someone earlier mentioned terrorism, ugh, what are they trying to get, and why has nothing happended for years beyond threats?

I'm on your side, I'm trying to be devil's advocate. The "I have proof of threats against my life, and cops have done nothing for years" I'm sorry friend. This doesn't add up.

Illegally obtained evidence is sometimes admissible if you can prove that a legal investigation would have later found it anyway. Look up "inevitable discovery."

If law enforcement has been less than helpful, have you considered the media? The FBI and others might be more inclined to help if they're basically shamed into it.

The media loves stories like this--being able to shove a mic in someone's face and say "Why aren't you doing your job?"

with all the incidents of "swatting" is there any way you can contact your local police to alert them that it could happen?

In reply to z31maniac :

It adds up. I've left out details.