I'm pissed at Google.

zombie beat me to it.

93celicaGT2 wrote: The time spent complaining could have been spent thanking our troops, celebrating the fact that America overcame such a horrible event, etc etc etc.

Are you sure I didn't do that?

I did. I went out of my way today to share heartfelt sentiments with everyone I came into contact with, including servicemen I know, children, AND in my original post in this thread.

I went out of my way to express my gratitude to people all day, and to educate people.

But, to whom much is given, much is expected.

My sphere of influence is fairly small. I did my best.

Google gets 100,000,000 hits PER DAY. Pretty big sphere of influence. That's a lot of responsibility. What concerns me is not that they didn't try, it's that THEY DID. They did their best to say exactly what they wanted said. Nothing. They wanted nothing said. And they said exactly nothing to 100 million people.

I'm not complaining. I'm noticing. And acting on what I see.

I noticed what they did. I reported it here. And no, I am not happy about it. So I said so. That's not complaining- that's what responsibility and accountability are all about.

My local radio station goons played FDRs speech at 5:00. (Image found by use of google.)

I'll complain. It sucks. Pretty important stuff to remember.

93celicaGT2 wrote: On a side note: it is APPALLING how many kids today have no idea what happened on December 7.

You remember why 1812 is a big year?

Isn't that when the Canadian's beat up on their southern brethren?

I blame the gays.

Google has in the past neglected to show, for lack of a better word, 'remembrance' of similar important dates in the same way yet they go out of their way to honor some real oddball thing the average slob has never heard of. Yeah, I use Google a lot and it irks me just like it does SVReX.

I remember. And honor them.

Some more looking uncovered this: http://www.google.com/doodle4google/history.html Near the bottom on the page: "We try to be sensitive that a doodle is not the most appropriate way to recognize certain events, especially those that are more somber in nature."

eastpark wrote: Some more looking uncovered this: http://www.google.com/doodle4google/history.html Near the bottom on the page: "We try to be sensitive that a doodle is not the most appropriate way to recognize certain events, especially those that are more somber in nature."

Eggsractly...

I think it's funny that people are saying they want Pearl Harbor to be remembered in exactly the same fashion that we remember the birthdate of the Muppets.

To be fair to Google here - I looked through all their past doodles and they have never had one for September 11th either.

So while I do think it was intentional, I don't think it was malicious.

Maybe a better discussion is whether they should commemorate more somber dates and not just obscure ones.

No.

It happened. We kicked your ass.

In reply to Big ego:

Bahahahaha!

Pumpkin Escobar wrote:

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: The problem is, that Google started this. People are now expectant of Google to recognize everything. I kind of blame it on Google. If the US version of Google can't recognize important American Holidays, then they probably should drop them all together. (Because honestly, I don't care when Andy Warhol's birthday is)

why do you expect them to do anything? Do you pay them? Do they pay you? Theres no responsibility implied in youre relationship with Google. They could direct you to youtube videos of Insane Clown Posse shows everytime you search, no matter what you search for,and theres nothing you can do about it because they dont HAVE to do anything...not a GD thing. get over it. Yes, it wouldve been nice to see them do something, but getting mad at them for not doing something is ridiculous. The RESPONSIBLE thing (from a "Im a US Corporate citizen" standpoint) wouldve been to show support. Perhaps they are in some other way - perhaps donations to some organization or the like. Who knows if they are doing that or not? Who cares?!?! they owe you nothing. If you dont like how they operate, use another free search engine.

This is in reply to pumpkin and zombie:

I never said they owed me anything. I said that Google started something and people now expect them to recognize everything. I work with the public on a daily basis, trust me, people expect as much as they can from a free service. No matter what, people are going to complain. I would have never said anything about this until I saw this post.

Every day I get on Google and when there happens to be a doodle, I am always surprised, sometimes even brightens my day a little. It's just a little disappointing that they don't recognize an important event in American History.

I use Google on a daily basis, the only thing I "expect" from it, is to do exactly what it was meant to in the first place, be a search engine.

Tifosi2k2 wrote:

Streetwiseguy wrote:

93celicaGT2 wrote: On a side note: it is APPALLING how many kids today have no idea what happened on December 7.

You remember why 1812 is a big year?

The first volume of Grimm's Fairy Tales was published? Or was it the year Charles Dickens was born? I thought that maybe there was a war or something going on around that time, but since Google didn't honor it on their homepage, it must not have happened... or be worth remembering.

Well, on August 16, 1812, Canadian, British and native forces under General Brock took Detroit.

Sorry about giving it back......I'm pretty sure that we burnt the White House later on in that little conflict. Easy to understand it getting less coverage in the American press.

Zomby woof wrote: No. It happened. We kicked your ass.

Yes, it did happen - in 1812. Now? Well, USA's "hat" comes to mind........

In the big picture, I don't see Google as having any more responsibility to commemorate Pearl Harbor than it does to highlight the Tiananmen Sqaure massacre, the assassination of Anwar Sadat, the election of Margaret Thatcher or the Exxon Valdez oil-spill.

That said, I do believe there is a huge responsiblility on our institutions to educate people on WHY Dec. 7th is such an important day in US history.

Tifosi2k2 wrote: I should clarify a little bit, it's appalling how many American kids don't know about Pearl Harbor.... except for the movie. It's a pretty important day in American history, w/o knowing and understanding what happened, how can they really appreciate what that generation fought against, fought for, and in many, many cases died for. That's all I am saying...... And for the record, I never said Google should have done something..... I merely pointed out that you can remember w/o celebrating.

It is worth noting that there are a lot of adults that only know that some Japanese showed up in Hawaii and wrecked the place "back in da day" but have no idea what was going on politically or why they declared war on the US. The kids only know what the adults teach them.

SVreX wrote:

93celicaGT2 wrote: The time spent complaining could have been spent thanking our troops, celebrating the fact that America overcame such a horrible event, etc etc etc.

Are you sure I didn't do that? I did. I went out of my way today to share heartfelt sentiments with everyone I came into contact with, including servicemen I know, children, AND in my original post in this thread. I went out of my way to express my gratitude to people all day, and to educate people. But, to whom much is given, much is expected. My sphere of influence is fairly small. I did my best. Google gets 100,000,000 hits PER DAY. Pretty big sphere of influence. That's a lot of responsibility. What concerns me is not that they didn't try, it's that THEY DID. They did their best to say exactly what they wanted said. Nothing. They wanted nothing said. And they said exactly nothing to 100 million people. I'm not complaining. I'm noticing. And acting on what I see. I noticed what they did. I reported it here. And no, I am not happy about it. So I said so. That's not complaining- that's what responsibility and accountability are all about.

I'm afraid my post came across harsher than intended. It's not my place to pass judgement on anyone here, nor did i mean to imply that you DIDN'T spend time thanking the troops.

I apologize if you thought i was bagging on you in any way.

Consider it forgiven, and forgotten.

Thanks for the response.

In reply to Streetwiseguy:

I'm sure you mean 1814 since prior to that it was the US doing the attacking. We don't like to focus on that though.

Streetwiseguy wrote:

93celicaGT2 wrote: On a side note: it is APPALLING how many kids today have no idea what happened on December 7.

You remember why 1812 is a big year?

Russia defended Moscow against Napolean.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: The problem is, that Google started this. People are now expectant of Google to recognize everything. I kind of blame it on Google.

You blame Google for OTHER PEOPLES EXPECTATIONS??!!?? Why? what could you blame them for? providing a FREE service that works, so that when people want to use THE FREE SERVICE, they feel some sort of right to govern how THAT FREE SERVICE operates? Asinine!

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: If the US version of Google can't recognize important American Holidays, then they probably should drop them all together.

Dec 7th IS NOT A HOLIDAY!!!!...repeat: IS NOT A HOLIDAY. Its a day to remember yes, and perhaps a day to thank our service people (though, in reality, everyday is a day to thank them). Again, who knows if Google say thanks in some private way? I dont know, do you? Do they have any responsibility at all to do so? Legally, NO. But feel free to pass judgment on them for not doing what you think they should when they have ABXOLUTELY NO RESPONSIBILITY TO YOU OR ANYONE IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC...WHATSOEVER!

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: I never said they owed me anything.

you said they failed to meet your expectations, there is little difference.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: I said that Google started something and people now expect them to recognize everything.

Why?

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: I work with the public on a daily basis, trust me, people expect as much as they can from a free service. No matter what, people are going to complain.

DOES NOT MATTER!
What the public expects is of no material concern to Google in as much as Goog has no responsibility. Let the people complain, their complaints are worthless. Why should people expect Google to do something they have no responsibility to do? McDonalds served a bazillion burgers yesterday, were any of them shaped like the Missouri? Maybe Nuggets shaped like the Hawaiian Islands? Nope, I guess McDs needs to burn in Hell for their lack of celebration too huh?

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: It's just a little disappointing that they don't recognize an important event in American History.

Again, how do you know they didnt?

I am pissed that there was no mention of Arnulf of Carinthia's passing today, December 8th 899.

eastpark wrote: Some more looking uncovered this: http://www.google.com/doodle4google/history.html Near the bottom on the page: "We try to be sensitive that a doodle is not the most appropriate way to recognize certain events, especially those that are more somber in nature."

This.