Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
1/3/22 12:08 p.m.

The wife has been applying to remote graphic design jobs on Indeed and got a reply fairly quickly. It fits a lot of her prerequisites but.....it seems a bit shady.

 

First of the company name is slightly wrong, this is a big weirdness but it's a weird small textile company in california that's been in business forever and is listed online as a few different company names over the years. The number they called from is connected to that company but isn't their company number, it's the VPs number.

 

She had a phone interview with them that went well and they didn't ask for any personal info. They asked her about how much she wanted an hour and were a bit sketchy since it was more than they were offering. According to pretty much everything I see on job scams they usually offer a lot of money.

The contacted her again thru indeed and said they would like a 2nd interview as she is their best candidate for the job. She does have a slightly weird job history and skill set which actually fits the job well so this isn't untoward IMO. The job has had nearly 2000 applications and has been up for over 30 days.

 

How does this found to everyone? Any advice? I literally have never even had to make a resume, I have either been asked to work somewhere or just called so I'm no help at all.

 

Who would have thought a part time remote graphic design job would be filled with peril......

 

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
1/3/22 12:09 p.m.

Dammit..,scams not scans...

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
1/3/22 12:29 p.m.

I'd ask for an in person interview.

Whether or not it happens the response will tell you a lot.

Beer Baron
Beer Baron MegaDork
1/3/22 12:40 p.m.

Treat it as a Schroedinger's Scam - respond as though it could be real or fraud.

Keep going forward like it's a real opportunity but don't provide any personal information until you're absolutely certain it's legit.

rob_lewis
rob_lewis UltraDork
1/3/22 12:47 p.m.

The question would be, what's the scam?  If they expect her to shell out anything for the job, that's an obvious red flag.  Otherwise, if they offer her the job and pay her, doesn't mean it has to be permanent.  If anything seems odd/scammy/just plain wrong once she starts, she can easily quit.  If this is one of multiple offers or further interest she has, then I'd bail.

When my wife was looking, there was a weird company offering "project manager" positions, but in the second interview, it was a panel of like 20 candidates all on a zoom call.  We could never figure out what the "business" was, but it seemed like a lot of card table in front of a business promotion junk. They wanted her to start the next day for an all day training week where she would then bring in others.  Kinda like a multi level marketing thing, but there didn't seem to be a product to sel.  Enough weirdness that she just stopped answering their emails and phone calls. 

In today's market, many companies are trying to figure out how to run their business in an online world.  As a result, it's good to be cautious if something seems odd, but keep in mind that many of these companies have no idea how to interview and hire virtually and are learning as they go.

-Rob

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
1/3/22 12:58 p.m.
Antihero (Forum Supporter) said:

Dammit..,scams not scans...

Done

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
1/3/22 1:01 p.m.

The company name wrong is a big tip off.  As a designer and brand conscious, I would think this is inexcusable.  Add to that th phone number issues and I feel this is all scam.  

Other than on Indeed, is this job listed on the true company website?  

 

I'd just call it all out to the interviewer.  Share with them your concerns of fraud and have them provide real solutions.  

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
1/3/22 1:14 p.m.

In reply to John Welsh :

Thank you for the title fix

The company has used about 6 names in the past and the title on the application is just a three lettered abbreviation and INC. the problem is the name in the application is PBN INC and the company would be PBG Inc among others. The number they called from is connected to the company.

As for what we are worried about it's basically identity theft, she will have to give her social security number etc to accept the job

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
1/3/22 1:14 p.m.
rob_lewis said:

The question would be, what's the scam?  If they expect her to shell out anything for the job, that's an obvious red flag.  Otherwise, if they offer her the job and pay her, doesn't mean it has to be permanent.  If anything seems odd/scammy/just plain wrong once she starts, she can easily quit.  If this is one of multiple offers or further interest she has, then I'd bail.

When my wife was looking, there was a weird company offering "project manager" positions, but in the second interview, it was a panel of like 20 candidates all on a zoom call.  We could never figure out what the "business" was, but it seemed like a lot of card table in front of a business promotion junk. They wanted her to start the next day for an all day training week where she would then bring in others.  Kinda like a multi level marketing thing, but there didn't seem to be a product to sel.  Enough weirdness that she just stopped answering their emails and phone calls. 

In today's market, many companies are trying to figure out how to run their business in an online world.  As a result, it's good to be cautious if something seems odd, but keep in mind that many of these companies have no idea how to interview and hire virtually and are learning as they go.

-Rob

It's a good point and from the online presence of the company.......tech savvy they are not

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
1/3/22 1:28 p.m.

It's easy to spoof a phone number for caller id

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
1/3/22 1:30 p.m.
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) said:

It's easy to spoof a phone number for caller id

That's my worry.

I'm thinking of having her call the number and see if they know of her basically

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