the Deere thing would never fly in automobiles. There are rules in place to keep dealers from monopolizing the repair process.
I think John Deere will get their day in court.. I hope they lose
the Deere thing would never fly in automobiles. There are rules in place to keep dealers from monopolizing the repair process.
I think John Deere will get their day in court.. I hope they lose
mad_machine wrote: the Deere thing would never fly in automobiles. There are rules in place to keep dealers from monopolizing the repair process. I think John Deere will get their day in court.. I hope they lose
GM is positioning themselves in the John Deere camp, and Tesla is almost doing the same thing already - nobody's complained because the kind of person who can afford a Tesla has no interest in DIYing it or doing it cheaply anyway.
true for the Tesla ... but little of GM's stuff is of that sort ...
lots of GM buyers would still do their own work ... or even better, they don't trust the dealer (usually with very good reason) and after the warranty is used up will want to go to a an indy ...
if they (and I'm one of them ... as a GM vehicle owner) want to keep the car, and have it worked on by an indy, we won't have that choice ... we'll be forced to go to the dealership ...
assuming I'm in the market for a new vehicle by the time GM starts to make it so that the only place it can be serviced is by them ... I won't be shopping their line up
at that point.. stop selling cars and make us all sign leases.
I have no dought that the dealer only service thing is money driven but could it also be a two fold thing. Yes they make money on the service but have insurance companies and lawsuits made insurance company's start forcing the auto manufacturers' in to doing this? The theory is you make it dealer services only and you don't have to make it idiot proof to service or repair? Somthing as simple as you would not have to lable anything in the engine compartment and they could make all the sensor plugs the same so yes you could plug the wrong thing in the wrong place.
I can see huge potential cost savings to manufacturers in insurance due to reduced liability as well as manufacturing cost savings. I bet these far ought way the money made in the service business.
mad_machine wrote: the Deere thing would never fly in automobiles. There are rules in place to keep dealers from monopolizing the repair process. I think John Deere will get their day in court.. I hope they lose
Wrong laws and agencies you're applying there. Pervue belongs to the Library of Congress on this one.
A federal Final Rule on this was published a few months ago, curtailing the extent manufacturers were taking this to. But it did not eliminate it. http://copyright.gov/1201/2015/fedreg-publicinspectionFR.pdf
While I personally would like to see it not happen, in fact it is happening. Deere is the most noted one at the moment, but they are not doing anything the others are not.
In reply to dean1484:
Are you asserting that dealer technicians are all competent mechanics? I think that's shaky ground to base these ideas on. But I can see an OEM deciding to do so. 
even worse than assuming the competency of the techs is the idea that the dealer ships have any interest in actually keeping your old car (and eventually these will be be old cars) running ...
they are there to sell cars, not keep your 10 yr old POS on the road ... what ya gonna do then ? you can't afford a new car, and the only place that can fix your POS couldn't care less if it ran or not
wbjones wrote: even worse than assuming the competency of the techs is the idea that the dealer ships have any interest in actually keeping your old car (and eventually these will be be old cars) running ... they are there to sell cars, not keep your 10 yr old POS on the road ... what ya gonna do then ? you can't afford a new car, and the only place that can fix your POS couldn't care less if it ran or not
Couldn't care less? They'd be better off if you needed a new car. See also: Most of the consumer electronics industry; telecoms' companies reluctance to do anything about phone theft.
Where I suspect manufacturers want things to head is that auto use is more like a license agreement than ownership. Pay your monthly fees for use, after a few years the model is no longer supported. Time to re-up with a new license. Hey with driverless cars you don't have to even store it. Just order as needed. Manufacturers aren't all that interested in the repair business. Your fee is based on how luxurious, sophisticated or feature laden you want to pay for.
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