Enyar
Enyar Dork
8/12/15 9:40 p.m.

My home decided to participate in A/C failure season, a tech came out and decided the coil was leaking. It's a carrier 5ton unit that uses R22 that's 12 years old(2003). The coil was already replaced in 2009 but rusty as hell.

This guy quoted $3k for the coil+capacitor+associated parts replacement or $8k for a completely new system. Looking at the receipt in 2009 it looks like the coil was $1300 with labor back then. Is that about the going rate? I found one for $700 online. Is there some DIY/grassroots savings to be made here or should I stay away from the tools?

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
8/13/15 7:52 a.m.

The coils have to be soldered into place, at least on my two. I recently tore them apart and scrapped them. I would call around and get quotes. If you say you found your coils online for $700, confront HVAC guy and tell him to explain his quote.

Get competitive quotes.

The capacitor should be like $50, but I am not sure why it's needed.

Enyar
Enyar Dork
8/13/15 10:47 a.m.

The capacitor fried when the unit kept trying to run with low freon from the coil leak.

Thanks! I thought this guy's prices were expensive too. Last time I bought a capacitor it was $80, this guy wanted like $270.

The
The HalfDork
8/13/15 11:16 a.m.

run

failboat
failboat UltraDork
8/13/15 11:19 a.m.

is it possible its an updated part? Our rusty, clogged coil was replaced this year, couldn't tell you cost as it fell under manufacturer's warranty, but the new one was all aluminum.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill PowerDork
8/13/15 12:06 p.m.

Our coil was $1,100 a couple years ago, but the unit is smaller than 5 ton. We know the AC man, he does our stuff on the side.

I thought you were renting?

slefain
slefain UberDork
8/13/15 12:30 p.m.

Find the leaks and braze it?

Slippery
Slippery Dork
8/13/15 12:33 p.m.

I had a 5t Trane XL19i installed in October of 2009 for $5300. This was a complete new system, with 12 year warranty.

I think the price you were quoted is high.

Are you in Florida? Check with FPL for any rebates on a new unit.

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
8/13/15 12:34 p.m.

I can tell you that the coils are worth about $15 in scrap.

Enyar
Enyar Dork
8/13/15 1:33 p.m.
spitfirebill wrote: Our coil was $1,100 a couple years ago, but the unit is smaller than 5 ton. We know the AC man, he does our stuff on the side. I thought you were renting?

Yeah it's kinda complicated. We were renting, then the landlord sold the house and we had 30 days to boogy. We've been trying to buy so we didn't want to sign another lease so (drum roll please) we moved in with my wife's grandparents! It's kind of crazy because they don't speak much english (read: none) but on a positive note it's only 1.5 miles to work now, I'm working on my spanish, coffee is ready every morning and they live in a big ass house. A big ass hot house.

I got another quote over the phone for $2400 for the coil/ ~5k ish for a new system. Got another guy coming this evening that was recommended by a friend and he sounds real promising.

Enyar
Enyar Dork
8/13/15 4:50 p.m.

Latest is $4k to replace everything except the furnace with a 14 SEER Trane unit.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill PowerDork
8/13/15 5:23 p.m.

Why don't you get a heat pump? Drop the furnace.

Enyar
Enyar Dork
8/14/15 1:12 p.m.

Furnace still works and is under warranty. That and it's really not necessary in FL.

slefain
slefain UberDork
8/14/15 1:25 p.m.
spitfirebill wrote: Why don't you get a heat pump? Drop the furnace.

We just switched one of our rental units back from a heat pump to a traditional AC/furnace setup. When the other unit craps out we will be doing the same. The renters were never happy with how they performed and they broke a lot. Since going back to an old school setup everyone is happy.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill PowerDork
8/14/15 2:32 p.m.
slefain wrote:
spitfirebill wrote: Why don't you get a heat pump? Drop the furnace.
We just switched one of our rental units back from a heat pump to a traditional AC/furnace setup. When the other unit craps out we will be doing the same. The renters were never happy with how they performed and they broke a lot. Since going back to an old school setup everyone is happy.

Yea but he is in Tampa. We have had good results with our Goodman units. The original Yorks sucked.

oldopelguy
oldopelguy SuperDork
8/15/15 10:43 a.m.

5T units are a weird size, bigger than normal for a home and smaller than normal for a business. I wouldn't be surprised if you could get two 2-3T units and the tin work to split the house into two zones for the same $.

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